[OOC] Heroes of Beacon - the Next Chapter

[Onarax]

Dustricity is really underrated these days.

[harinezumikouken]

It could even be asked who thought it a good idea to give a young teenaged girl a giant scythe that can transform into a high-caliber sniper rifle?

I'unno? Reasons? xD

[Krayzikk]

It could even be asked who thought it a good idea to give a young teenaged girl a giant scythe that can transform into a high-caliber sniper rifle?

I'unno? Reasons? xD

@harinezumikouken

Sure.

But you can't level a city or two in a single second with a scythe and a sniper rifle.

[Nytem4re]

Why is anyone even considering allowing a source with power that significant and that volatile to be on a PC where it could blow up or irradiate the entire damn school, again?

Seriously, why?

@Krayzikk

Someone could have come up with a perfectly valid containment system/failsafe in the case the reactor is even remotely close to a breach. You know, sorta like a nuclear reactor? I mean RWBY has access to dust.

And in the first place, why did anyone even consider letting it's so called students run off and participate in activity that is regulated to the police/military, not 14-18 year olds.

[MULTI_MEDIA_MAN]

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Someone could have come up with a perfectly valid containment system/failsafe in the case the reactor is even remotely close to a breach. You know, sorta like a nuclear reactor? I mean RWBY has access to dust.

And in the first place, why did anyone even consider letting it's so called students run off and participate in activity that is regulated to the police, not 14-18 year olds.

@Nytem4re

[WONDERS ABOUT VYTAL TORUNAMENT SECURITY INTENSIFY]

[Lucius Cypher]

Key words are "less advanced" and "possibly more volatile". A fusion reactor in suitably advanced settings could be hand waved as safe due to having certain fictional safety measures, but a less advanced reactor implanted in one's body that may very well not have worked, in a setting that produces most of its technology through Dust, would not have advanced measures like that.

At the bare minimum, a self sustaining reactor breach would produce an immense amount of very, very bad radiation. More likely? An explosion that is, at the size it would be to be implanted in one's body, equal to or just under the size of what we inflicted on Hiroshima.

As in, enough to level a city. And that's without even touching how the tech would be developed given that almost everything in RWBY runs on Dust.

@Krayzikk

More or less. As it stands, even if you could somehow damage his Fusion Core either by doing enough external damage or somehow getting Gren to literally open himself up for you, the worse that I want him to do is cause a localized radiation leak. You'd have to work a bit harder for him to become a walking warhead. And while Gren is still using the "Old Tech", he has upgraded since he left the White Fang. The fact he won't explode into a Hiroshima bomb is one of the upgrades you could say he got for himself once he cut ties with the White Fang. Removing his new safety features may turn him back into a walking warhead, but right now that's not something he's capable of.

[Onarax]

Man, I feel like none of this would even be a problem if you just had him running on normal dustricity with kinetic and solar powered mumbo jumbo.

It's not like a fusion reactor achieves anything of note other than being a walking radiation hazard and potential bomb.

[Krayzikk]

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Someone could have come up with a perfectly valid containment system/failsafe in the case the reactor is even remotely close to a breach. You know, sorta like a nuclear reactor? I mean RWBY has access to dust.

And in the first place, why did anyone even consider letting it's so called students run off and participate in activity that is regulated to the police/military, not 14-18 year olds.

@Nytem4re

A failsafe in technology Lucius specifically said he picked to be "old and possibly volatile"? As in, specifically to make the point that Gren was using low quality tech? A failsafe for a technology that it's dubious that anyone would have come up with in this setting anyway? All fitted into a reactor small enough to be used within the body of a single person without being detected?

Unlikely to an extreme degree, even- no, especially- taking into account the RWBY universe.

The decision to use teenagers for such jobs isn't even relevant. That's a different conversation and thought process entirely.

[Silvan Haven]

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Someone could have come up with a perfectly valid containment system/failsafe in the case the reactor is even remotely close to a breach. You know, sorta like a nuclear reactor? I mean RWBY has access to dust.

And in the first place, why did anyone even consider letting it's so called students run off and participate in activity that is regulated to the police/military, not 14-18 year olds.

@Nytem4re

Because otherwise we would not have a plot. That and the Hunters are Vale's equivalent to their special forces. Also those same people were being sent on missions not too much later so its not really an entirely accurate to talk about them like that.

[Nytem4re]

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A failsafe in technology Lucius specifically said he picked to be "old and possibly volatile"? As in, specifically to make the point that Gren was using low quality tech? A failsafe for a technology that it's dubious that anyone would have come up with in this setting anyway? All fitted into a reactor small enough to be used within the body of a single person without being detected?

Unlikely to an extreme degree, even- no, especially- taking into account the RWBY universe.

The decision to use teenagers for such jobs isn't even relevant. That's a different conversation and thought process entirely.

@Krayzikk

I mean, there's penny, but k. You could argue that's advanced tech but she exists.

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Because otherwise we would not have a plot. That and the Hunters are Vale's equivalent to their special forces. Also those same people were were being sent on missions not too much later so its not really an entirely accurate to talk about them like that.

@Silvan Haven

It was merely a parallel for him saying how improbable it would be for someone to let a reactor into a school. Which wouldn't probably be detectable in the first place the way Gren has it.

[Krayzikk]

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More or less. As it stands, even if you could somehow damage his Fusion Core either by doing enough external damage or somehow getting Gren to literally open himself up for you, the worse that I want him to do is cause a localized radiation leak. You'd have to work a bit harder for him to become a walking warhead. And while Gren is still using the "Old Tech", he has upgraded since he left the White Fang. The fact he won't explode into a Hiroshima bomb is one of the upgrades you could say he got for himself once he cut ties with the White Fang. Removing his new safety features may turn him back into a walking warhead, but right now that's not something he's capable of.

@Lucius Cypher

This...

No.

Just no.

Such a failsafe has no even remotely reasonable reason, even taking into account the entire RWBY universe, to exist and would in fact contradict every necessity of the power source you want to use.

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I mean, there's penny, but k.

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It was merely a parallel for him saying how improbable it would be for someone to let a reactor into a school.

@Nytem4re

Penny is tech Lucius explicitly calls more advanced, and is not even remotely an excuse when the mechanics of her operation have had no explanation. And given that she generates an Aura, she probably runs off of Aura or Dust herself.

Because that's how RWBY tech usually works.

[Onarax]

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I mean, there's penny, but k. You could argue that's advanced tech but she exists.

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It was merely a parallel for him saying how improbable it would be for someone to let a reactor into a school. Which wouldn't probably be detectable in the first place the way Gren has it.

@Nytem4re

Last I checked Penny just ran on dustricity and wasn't liable to explode.

Remember kids, safe, clean power is the secret to a renewable future.

[HereComesTheSnow]

can't energize people spinning in their graves yet

[Nytem4re]

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Last I checked Penny just ran on dustricity and wasn't liable to explode.

Remember kids, safe, clean power is the secret to a renewable future.

@Onarax

A nuclear reactor is no more liable to explode, and is clean energy technically. And again, I doubt Gren would need the power output an actual nuclear reactor provides.

But yes, changing the reactor to dust would probably solve this discussion.

[Krayzikk]

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A nuclear reactor is no more liable to explode, and is clean energy technically.

@Nytem4re

I just spent literally the last two pages outlining why a nuclear fusion reactor, of the variety Gren would be using, can be explosive. Radioactive at minimum.

[Onarax]

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A nuclear reactor is no more liable to explode, and is clean energy technically.

@Nytem4re

Nuclear Reactor =/= Shoddy Fusion Reactor.

Fission =/= Fusion

Also meltdowns are still a thing. Japan knows that quite well.

[Lady Seraphina]

Someone could have come up with a perfectly valid containment system/failsafe in the case the reactor is even remotely close to a breach. You know, sorta like a nuclear reactor? I mean RWBY has access to dust.

And in the first place, why did anyone even consider letting it's so called students run off and participate in activity that is regulated to the police/military, not 14-18 year olds.

@Nytem4re

It seems to me access to dust is more reason why it would explode and not less. The stuff is volatile as shit.

And that age bracket is 17-21. Ruby is an exception, she was admitted several years early because of extreme skill and getting arrested by Goodwitch.

The logical thing for Beacon would be a simple full body scan when a student first accepts his role and another one anytime he has been gone for a long period of time. Just to ensure that they are not smuggling in explosives into the school. Like basic airport security which by the way should be present at the loading docks for the airships which they use to get to Beacon which there is no way in hell Gren would pass.

[Nytem4re]

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Nuclear Reactor =/= Shoddy Fusion Reactor.

Fission =/= Fusion

Also meltdowns are still a thing. Japan knows that quite well.

@Onarax

Never said that wasn't a possibility. And Chernobyl comes to mind.

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I just spent literally the last two pages outlining why a nuclear fusion reactor, of the variety Gren would be using, can be explosive. Radioactive at minimum.

@Krayzikk

Key word can, but if built properly it wouldn't happen. Show me actual evidence that it could be, since government agencies seem convinced that a nuclear fission reactor wouldn't be. And this reactor gren had wouldn't exist in rl anyway, since it is small enough to fit into a human body.

And we still don't know the actual energy output it's giving.

[Krayzikk]

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Never said that wasn't a possibility. And Chernobyl comes to mind.

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Key word can, but if built properly it wouldn't happen. Show me actual evidence that it could be, since government agencies seem convinced that a nuclear fission reactor wouldn't be.

@Nytem4re

Show me a self-sustaining nuclear fusion reactor for them to be able to make any claims off of. Then I'll actually deign to respond to this.

Also, fusion not fission.

[Lady Seraphina]

Key word can, but if built properly it wouldn't happen. Show me actual evidence that it could be, since government agencies seem convinced that a nuclear fission reactor wouldn't be. And this reactor gren had wouldn't exist in rl anyway, since it is small enough to fit into a human body.

And we still don't know the actual energy output it's giving.

@Nytem4re

Exactly the key word is can. And a school is not going to let anything into the school that has the potential to kill everyone in the school in seconds even if the likely hood is very remote. The fact that it can is enough to not let him in.