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I know everyone is freaking out that Gren has the possibility of being a mobile nuclear disaster, and to be frank, that's kinda the intention of this is discovered IC. I want to see how people would react: Would they see Gren as a threat that needs to be destroyed? Or will they try to help him go for a cleaner, less dangerous alternative? Because I will admit: Gren likes power. He likes the idea that even in his weakest state, he could destroy many people, and many things. The fact that he keeps it a secret is one of the reasons he's seeking Sapphire's position of leadership because he can't be open about how dangerous he can be, like how he was back when he ran with the White Fang. If anyone bothers to try to interact with him and know this side of him, they can chose for themselves if Gren is a dangerous maniac that needs to be put down, or maybe he has issues that need to be addressed and convince him to let go of his power-hungry rage boner.

Hell, the whole reason I even bothered to mention it OoC is to see how people would react to it. And from what it looks like, there is a lot of fear and hatred for what Gren is. For whatever reason. What will you do about it?
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I know everyone is freaking out that Gren has the possibility of being a mobile nuclear disaster, and to be frank, that's kinda the intention of this is discovered IC. I want to see how people would react: Would they see Gren as a threat that needs to be destroyed? Or will they try to help him go for a cleaner, less dangerous alternative? Because I will admit: Gren likes power. He likes the idea that even in his weakest state, he could destroy many people, and many things. The fact that he keeps it a secret is one of the reasons he's seeking Sapphire's position of leadership because he can't be open about how dangerous he can be, like how he was back when he ran with the White Fang. If anyone bothers to try to interact with him and know this side of him, they can chose for themselves if Gren is a dangerous maniac that needs to be put down, or maybe he has issues that need to be addressed and convince him to let go of his power-hungry rage boner.

Hell, the whole reason I even bothered to mention it OoC is to see how people would react to it. And from what it looks like, there is a lot of fear and hatred for what Gren is. For whatever reason. What will you do about it?


Get the capability nixed.

I don't give a fuck about your little social experiment. I'm stating that I won't stand for it to exist until such a time that the GMs have explicitly stated that they'll allow it.

And if that happens, I'll have to seriously reevaluate what the staff in this game is willing to allow.
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I know everyone is freaking out that Gren has the possibility of being a mobile nuclear disaster, and to be frank, that's kinda the intention of this is discovered IC. I want to see how people would react: Would they see Gren as a threat that needs to be destroyed? Or will they try to help him go for a cleaner, less dangerous alternative? Because I will admit: Gren likes power. He likes the idea that even in his weakest state, he could destroy many people, and many things. The fact that he keeps it a secret is one of the reasons he's seeking Sapphire's position of leadership because he can't be open about how dangerous he can be, like how he was back when he ran with the White Fang. If anyone bothers to try to interact with him and know this side of him, they can chose for themselves if Gren is a dangerous maniac that needs to be put down, or maybe he has issues that need to be addressed and convince him to let go of his power-hungry rage boner.

Hell, the whole reason I even bothered to mention it OoC is to see how people would react to it. And from what it looks like, there is a lot of fear and hatred for what Gren is. For whatever reason. What will you do about it?


No actually the issue is that fact that in a realistic Beacon academy Gren can't get in without this being revealed at least to the higher ups and once it is the likely hood of him being let in is nil. What the fucking kind of school are we in if the headmaster lets a walking bomb in the door without so much as a word.
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I know everyone is freaking out that Gren has the possibility of being a mobile nuclear disaster, and to be frank, that's kinda the intention of this is discovered IC. I want to see how people would react: Would they see Gren as a threat that needs to be destroyed? Or will they try to help him go for a cleaner, less dangerous alternative? Because I will admit: Gren likes power. He likes the idea that even in his weakest state, he could destroy many people, and many things. The fact that he keeps it a secret is one of the reasons he's seeking Sapphire's position of leadership because he can't be open about how dangerous he can be, like how he was back when he ran with the White Fang. If anyone bothers to try to interact with him and know this side of him, they can chose for themselves if Gren is a dangerous maniac that needs to be put down, or maybe he has issues that need to be addressed and convince him to let go of his power-hungry rage boner.

Hell, the whole reason I even bothered to mention it OoC is to see how people would react to it. And from what it looks like, there is a lot of fear and hatred for what Gren is. For whatever reason. What will you do about it?


You've just given me more reasons for Oswald to put the mad boar down.

Oswald, on the other hand, fucking adores Gren. He gave him meat!
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Show me a self-sustaining nuclear fusion reactor for them to be able to make any claims off of. Then I'll actually deign to respond to this.

Also, fusion not fission.


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can't energize people spinning in their graves yet


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Also what I'm hearing, is that the reason you chose a Fusion Reactor is primarily because of all the game breaking implications it has?

Please tell me you see the problem with that.

Please.
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Pure eighth-grader science.jpg

Also what I'm hearing, is that the reason you chose a Fusion Reactor is primarily because of all the game breaking implications it has?

Please tell me you see the problem with that.

Please.


That graph hurts my fucking soul.
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au contraire


Oh fuck no, you can't remake a Robin Williams film without Robin Williams. DEATH! DEATH TO WHOEVER IS INVOLVED! Also are there no original ideas anymore. I mean I get having a similar plot to another movie but for the last like five years all Hollywood has been doing is ripping off ten and twenty year old ideas.
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Show me a self-sustaining nuclear fusion reactor for them to be able to make any claims off of. Then I'll actually deign to respond to this.

Also, fusion not fission.


I meant fusion. Spell check thing.

And by that logic I can say show me a nuclear fusion reactor that reacts from a breach that way even with failsafes.

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I meant fusion. Spell check thing.

And by that logic I can say show me a nuclear fusion reactor that reacts from a breach that way even with failsafes.


You could. It'd be as much of a logical fallacy as asking for evidence that scientifically cannot exist yet was, though.
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You could. It'd be as much of a logical fallacy as asking for evidence that scientifically cannot exist yet was, though.


Isn't that the same thing you did though? What evidence states that a fusion reactor must act this way, despite any safety measures put in place by the inventors?
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@Prince of Seraphs, @Lugubrious, @Lucius Cypher - Alright, well since this is becoming a slight problem. What say you to rewriting Gren's "nuclear reactor' to something akin to a Soul Drive/Solar Furnace/Dust Core?
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I mean I don't know, if a five man team was over the top enough to spark debate surely a nuclear warhead wouldn't even be considered, no?
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Isn't that the same thing you did though? What evidence states that a fusion reactor must act this way, despite any safety measures put in place by the inventors?


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That was literally the entire point of asking.

That it was an equal logical fallacy, intended to show you how ridiculous asking for that evidence was.

Clearly the message was lost.
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Get the capability nixed.

I don't give a fuck about your little social experiment. I'm stating that I won't stand for it to exist until such a time that the GMs have explicitly stated that they'll allow it.

And if that happens, I'll have to seriously reevaluate what the staff in this game is willing to allow.


Well, it's all OoC anyways. As far as the IC is concerned how he's powering himself remains a mystery. It could all be Aura, could go back to DustElectricity, since it seems more reasonable than what I had put forth. But I like my idea better. talk to Lugu, Hari, and Seraph if my wish offends your sensibilities.

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No actually the issue is that fact that in a realistic Beacon academy Gren can't get in without this being revealed at least to the higher ups and once it is the likely hood of him being let in is nil. What the fucking kind of school are we in if the headmaster lets a walking bomb in the door without so much as a word.


Frankly speaking, aside from trying not to be open about it Gren hasn't really bothered to try to hide the fact he's a Cyborg. He's already a hulking, bulking orc wearing his armor almost all the time, and has rocket boosters coming out of his armor. Now maybe being a walking nuclear reactor would set off more alarms, but I figured Ozpin wouldn't judge someone for who or what they are. But it's not like he's the final word for admittance into Beacon or anything.

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You've just given me more reasons for Oswald to put the mad boar down.

Oswald, on the other hand, fucking adores Gren. He gave him meat!


Do what you feel Oswald should do. Gren has his faults too, but he still wants Oswald as a friend. It's a shame they don't hang out more.



Also what I'm hearing, is that the reason you chose a Fusion Reactor is primarily because of all the game breaking implications it has?

Please tell me you see the problem with that.

Please.


I see the problem, which is why I mentioned it into the OOC before I put it into the IC. And from what I've seen so far no one likes that idea except me. Put it to a vote if you want, if Gren being nuclear powered is such a wrong thing then I'll concede and choose a different alternative, likely Aura powered or some such. It'd axe Seraph's thought that an EMP would cripple Gren, but I'll pick that up as a secondary victory.
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That was literally the entire point of asking.

That it was an equal logical fallacy, intended to show you how ridiculous asking for that evidence was.

Clearly the message was lost.


Gee, I'm sorry I couldn't detect sarcasm over the internet. God.

And because it's not scientifically possible yet doesn't mean it can't be. There's plenty scientists once thought impossible, so I really don't see the point.
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@Prince of Seraphs, @Lugubrious, @Lucius Cypher - Alright, well since this is becoming a slight problem. What say you to rewriting Gren's "nuclear reactor' to something akin to a Soul Drive/Solar Furnace/Dust Core?


I'm willing to take it as a secondary alternative if it means magnetic pulses don't adversely harm his systems. Still want a Fusion Core, may save it up as an potential upgrade if Gren doesn't pick up Coco's minigun trick.
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Frankly speaking, aside from trying not to be open about it Gren hasn't really bothered to try to hide the fact he's a Cyborg. He's already a hulking, bulking orc wearing his armor almost all the time, and has rocket boosters coming out of his armor. Now maybe being a walking nuclear reactor would set off more alarms, but I figured Ozpin wouldn't judge someone for who or what they are. But it's not like he's the final word for admittance into Beacon or anything.


Not judging someone for who or what they is one thing. Letting a potential nuclear bomb into your school because your trying not to be judgmental is another. Ozpin wouldn't care that Gren is a cyborg, we've had people with prosthetic limbs before, it's not a problem. The problem is that his prosthesis have the potential to kill everyone.

I see the problem, which is why I mentioned it into the OOC before I put it into the IC. And from what I've seen so far no one likes that idea except me. Put it to a vote if you want, if Gren being nuclear powered is such a wrong thing then I'll concede and choose a different alternative, likely Aura powered or some such. It'd axe Seraph's thought that an EMP would cripple Gren, but I'll pick that up as a secondary victory.


Could you tell me exactly what "Aura powered" means. As far as I'm aware aura is a shield manifested from the soul of the wielder, it doesn't power machinery.

I'm willing to take it as a secondary alternative if it means magnetic pulses don't adversely harm his systems. Still want a Fusion Core, may save it up as an potential upgrade if Gren doesn't pick up Coco's minigun trick.


The fact that he has cybernetics is a huge advantage granting him a plethora of natural abilities over everyone else, increased strength, increased speed, better accuracy and hand eye coordination, more durability and not to mention weapons built into himself for if he ever loses the God Eater. The logical opposite of that is that he should have weaknesses that no one else does. He seems to have as much firepower as Aurelius' tank yet lacks all of the weaknesses that entailed.
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Could you tell me exactly what "Aura powered" means. As far as I'm aware aura is a shield manifested from the soul of the wielder, it doesn't power machinery.


Frankly I'm taking a lot of liberties based on what we know about Penny, but if they created a machine that can produce Aura, than surely they could have made machines that react and possibly be powered by Aura. And not that I'm trying to drag someone else into this conversation, but if I remembered correctly Aura-powered machines is something we're allowing since you said that Ebon's R-Types react to his telepathic semblance, which is an extension of his aura.

Of course that's also assuming Penny is being powered solely by this aura generating machine, though this is where Gren is different because he was once a normal fuanus and can produce his own Aura (Despite most of his fleshy bits mostly being in his head).

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