[OOC] A Song of Ice and Fire

[agentmanatee]

Wait... does she keep her surname? Or does she take Wylde?

[FantasyChic]

I am going into this with little knowledge of Game of Thrones apart from the first book (which I started). Based on what I know of royalty, I believe it would depend. I think she'd take your name as you are her husband and will be a minor lord. Her brother is probably in charge of carrying the family name.

[Gowi]

Women from noble Houses in Westeros often take on their husband's surname - though this is not automatic and many do not. Essentially, if a noblewoman "marries up" into a more powerful noble family, she will tend to shift to using the name of her husband's House. Conversely, if a noblewoman marries into a less powerful noble House (i.e., if she is one of the younger daughters in the family, not able to secure as good of a match) then she will often retain the use of her original family name, to remind everyone of her social and political ties. If their two families are of roughly equal power - such as if they are both from Great Houses that rule entire kingdoms - then the situation is more variable, and is more dependent on personal choice.

FYI

[FantasyChic]

That doesn't help me much. Is your family high up in power @agentmanatee? If not, then my question will be answered.

[Gowi]

That doesn't help me much. Is your family high up in power @agentmanatee? If not, then my question will be answered.

@FantasyChic

The Wylde's station isn't too high. Basically you'd have no reason not to take his family name though.

[FantasyChic]

I'd imagine the Wylde's are a bit higher up though, based on what I heard. But yeah, pretty sure I can take either or.

[agentmanatee]

Its seems about equal to house Vypren, so I really think it is up to you, well rather than bannermen of tully they are bannermen of the baratheons so... maybe a bit higher

[Gowi]

Wylde: Holds a major stronghold (Rain House), also is a minor vassal of a Great House.

Vypren: Holds a major city (Fairmarket) due to our canon, also is a minor vassal of a Great House.

About equal if you draw lines in the sand. Looks like House Vypren has been around since before Aegon's Conquest and have some mentions about importance.

Historical Ancestors:
Vorian Vypren
Jasper Wylde

[FantasyChic]

Lady Elyana Wylde

Lady Elyana Wylde (née Vypren) / Female / 25

"Just because I carry no sword or shoot no arrow does not mean I am not dangerous. It just means I have more clever ways to dispatch those who oppose me."

Appearance

Elyana has long, dark brown hair that falls to her hips, much like her mother's. She has blue eyes from her father and a fair complexion. She stands at 5'10, just shy of her twin brother. She weighs 120 lbs and has a petite, ladylike frame. Elyana is not scarred or blemished as she has not had formal combat training. Having been raised and brought up to respect appearance, Elyana looks and dresses like a lady at all times, wearing dresses and gowns whenever in public, and house dresses when in her own home. She has been known to dress more comfortably when not in the presence of others. She wears make-up in basic shades of red and pink and fine powders. Her favorite color is pink and has been known to wear that color often.

Personality

Elyana enjoys her lifestyle and portrays the values placed upon her by her parents. Through training, schooling, and lessons, Elyana has been taught a wide variety of subjects from social graces to history to mathematics. Elyana is very bright and shows her lessons off proudly.

Unlike her brother, Elyana doesn't display a heated temperament, preferring to remain cool under pressure. She believes a clear mind is more useful than brawn to overcoming hard situations. Due to this, Elyana is very persuasive and has a conniving side to her, as evident to her convincing her father, along with John's efforts, to her marrying him instead of being married off to a higher standing family. Elyana, also due to her upbringing, can be snobbish, but she makes an effort to not appear so and to respect the fact her family has what they have. She is proud to be part of the Vypren family.

Elyana is headstrong and determined in whatever she has her heart set on. She is a little jealous of her brother and his taking over the household despite her being older (even by a few minutes). She has had the idea of learning how to sword fight, but her father squashed her hopes of learning to do so at a younger age.

Pros and cons

The Good
Educated (in royal manners, etiquette, riding, history, mathematics, etc.)
Poised and Elegant
Beautiful
Diplomatic

The bad
Non-Combative
Stubborn
Jealousy (Of her brother)
Conniving

Biography

Elyana is the daughter of Lord Lucias Vypren and Lady Lythene Frey, birthed around 273 AC

Elyana's parents, having sent her brother off to be trained by Lord John Mallister, they took it upon themselves to train Elyana to be a lady and eventual wife to someone of higher power to cross ties and cement alliances. Through training, Elyana learned a variety of subjects. Her tutors enjoyed working with Elyana as she put up minimal fuss while learning, except the occasional act of rebellion when she wanted to do something fun. Elyana took her social classes to heart as it made her mother happy.

As she got older, she began to realize how political standings worked and how important it was to act and behave a certain way. She didn't want for much, but whatever she did want she would ask her father and, in an attempt to keep her happy in her studies, her father would give it to her. She enjoyed this small source of power over her father and used it to get further into her studies, studying different subjects that weren't normal for ladies of her station.

It was during this time she met John Wylde, who was serving under Lord Frey. As he was visiting, Elyana began talking with the young man and found herself enjoying his company greatly. Partially due to boredom from having no one to talk to her own age (as her brother was off doing his own thing), but mainly due to her fondness for the man, they struck a quick friendship, but was cut away as John was relieved of his situation with Lord Frey.

Her father continued to try and find a suitable man for his daughter to marry. With a few notable prospects in the horizon, Elyana found herself
worried about what she would be getting into. While she wanted to make her parents happy, she didn't want to marry some man just so she could keep alliances and have children. She thought of John again, and wished for a change. She was presented to the various families that her father wanted to align himself with and she found each of the men presented to her to be unbearable, rude, and just plain boring. She used whatever ounce of power she had to get her father to change his mind about these men and to wait, just a bit longer, for her marriage to the right person. Her father, hesitantly, accepted.

A tournament was to be held by house Tully and her family was invited to attend. Elyana enjoyed seeing tournaments as she has wanted to learn sword combat, but was shot down by her father (the one instance she couldn't get him to budge on). She was enjoying herself when she ran into none other than John Wylde again. Excited to see him again, she hatched a plan to relieve herself of this situation of marrying someone she couldn't stand, and proposed to John to ask for her hand in marriage. Knowing full well that John was not part of a family her father would have chosen, she decided to use whatever pull she could to get him to accept.

As the tournament went on, Elyana continuously praised John's efforts in the tournament, telling her father he was a loyal man, strong, determined, and would make a good husband and father and one that would carry whatever title he earned with pride. Though her father was hesitant, John ended up winning the tournament. Elyana then told her father that she felt John was an ideal partner for her. Her father, both amazed by John's talent and by his daughter's persuasion, agreed to the marriage. A year later, they held a wedding and the two were married. Elyana was happy she was with a man she cared about and, with time, realized she loved. Shortly after, Elyana gave birth to a son, named Rickard. She stands with her family in their values as war was on the horizon.

Equipment

-Horse
-Travelling clothes
-Winter attire
-Various dresses, gowns, and home attire.
-Jewelry
-Various books on a few subjects

[Gowi]

Jealousy (Of her brother)

Oh dear.

[DeltaV]

Lady Elyana Wylde

Lady Elyana Wylde (née Vypren) / Female / 25

"Just because I carry no sword or shoot no arrow does not mean I am not dangerous. It just means I have more clever ways to dispatch those who oppose me."

Appearance

Elyana has long, dark brown hair that falls to her hips, much like her mother's. She has blue eyes from her father and a fair complexion. She stands at 5'10, just shy of her twin brother. She weighs 120 lbs and has a petite, ladylike frame. Elyana is not scarred or blemished as she has not had formal combat training. Having been raised and brought up to respect appearance, Elyana looks and dresses like a lady at all times, wearing dresses and gowns whenever in public, and house dresses when in her own home. She has been known to dress more comfortably when not in the presence of others. She wears make-up in basic shades of red and pink and fine powders. Her favorite color is pink and has been known to wear that color often.

Personality

Elyana enjoys her lifestyle and portrays the values placed upon her by her parents. Through training, schooling, and lessons, Elyana has been taught a wide variety of subjects from social graces to history to mathematics. Elyana is very bright and shows her lessons off proudly.

Unlike her brother, Elyana doesn't display a heated temperament, preferring to remain cool under pressure. She believes a clear mind is more useful than brawn to overcoming hard situations. Due to this, Elyana is very persuasive and has a conniving side to her, as evident to her convincing her father, along with John's efforts, to her marrying him instead of being married off to a higher standing family. Elyana, also due to her upbringing, can be snobbish, but she makes an effort to not appear so and to respect the fact her family has what they have. She is proud to be part of the Vypren family.

Elyana is headstrong and determined in whatever she has her heart set on. She is a little jealous of her brother and his taking over the household despite her being older (even by a few minutes). She has had the idea of learning how to sword fight, but her father squashed her hopes of learning to do so at a younger age.

Pros and cons

The Good
Educated (in royal manners, etiquette, riding, history, mathematics, etc.)
Poised and Elegant
Beautiful
Diplomatic

The bad
Non-Combative
Stubborn
Jealousy (Of her brother)
Conniving

Biography

Elyana is the daughter of Lord Lucias Vypren and Lady Lythene Frey, birthed around 273 AC

Elyana's parents, having sent her brother off to be trained by Lord John Mallister, they took it upon themselves to train Elyana to be a lady and eventual wife to someone of higher power to cross ties and cement alliances. Through training, Elyana learned a variety of subjects. Her tutors enjoyed working with Elyana as she put up minimal fuss while learning, except the occasional act of rebellion when she wanted to do something fun. Elyana took her social classes to heart as it made her mother happy.

As she got older, she began to realize how political standings worked and how important it was to act and behave a certain way. She didn't want for much, but whatever she did want she would ask her father and, in an attempt to keep her happy in her studies, her father would give it to her. She enjoyed this small source of power over her father and used it to get further into her studies, studying different subjects that weren't normal for ladies of her station.

It was during this time she met John Wylde, who was serving under Lord Frey. As he was visiting, Elyana began talking with the young man and found herself enjoying his company greatly. Partially due to boredom from having no one to talk to her own age (as her brother was off doing his own thing), but mainly due to her fondness for the man, they struck a quick friendship, but was cut away as John was relieved of his situation with Lord Frey.

Her father continued to try and find a suitable man for his daughter to marry. With a few notable prospects in the horizon, Elyana found herself
worried about what she would be getting into. While she wanted to make her parents happy, she didn't want to marry some man just so she could keep alliances and have children. She thought of John again, and wished for a change. She was presented to the various families that her father wanted to align himself with and she found each of the men presented to her to be unbearable, rude, and just plain boring. She used whatever ounce of power she had to get her father to change his mind about these men and to wait, just a bit longer, for her marriage to the right person. Her father, hesitantly, accepted.

A tournament was to be held by house Tully and her family was invited to attend. Elyana enjoyed seeing tournaments as she has wanted to learn sword combat, but was shot down by her father (the one instance she couldn't get him to budge on). She was enjoying herself when she ran into none other than John Wylde again. Excited to see him again, she hatched a plan to relieve herself of this situation of marrying someone she couldn't stand, and proposed to John to ask for her hand in marriage. Knowing full well that John was not part of a family her father would have chosen, she decided to use whatever pull she could to get him to accept.

As the tournament went on, Elyana continuously praised John's efforts in the tournament, telling her father he was a loyal man, strong, determined, and would make a good husband and father and one that would carry whatever title he earned with pride. Though her father was hesitant, John ended up winning the tournament. Elyana then told her father that she felt John was an ideal partner for her. Her father, both amazed by John's talent and by his daughter's persuasion, agreed to the marriage. A year later, they held a wedding and the two were married. Elyana was happy she was with a man she cared about and, with time, realized she loved. Shortly after, Elyana gave birth to a son, named Rickard. She stands with her family in their values as war was on the horizon.

Equipment

-Horse
-Travelling clothes
-Winter attire
-Various dresses, gowns, and home attire.
-Jewelry
-Various books on a few subjects

@FantasyChic

Looks good overall, just a couple of nitpicky things:
- As far as that quote at the top goes, i can't imagine that a highborn lady's focus would very often be on "dispatching those who oppose her." "To solve my problems" might make more sense.
- It's J-O-N Jon Wylde, not J-O-H-N. Blame it on GRRM.

Other than that, it looks great. Accepted.

[FantasyChic]

Gawd so picky >.>

[agentmanatee]

Hey so exactly how long after Ned Starks imprisonement/ the battle of mummers ford are we starting? Like, has Stannis spread the bastard thing yet or is that not until after Ned loses his ead? @DeltaV

[Gowi]

You also mention Jason Mallister as John Mallister for some reason...

[DeltaV]

Hey so exactly how long after Ned Starks imprisonement/ the battle of mummers ford are we starting? Like, has Stannis spread the bastard thing yet or is that not until after Ned loses his ead? @DeltaV

@agentmanatee

I intend to have news of the battles reach our characters shortly after RP start. Ned's still in the black cells, and Stannis hasn't started spreading his allegations.

[agentmanatee]

Hey, I know this may or may not be useful or important, but sense it has none stated I've come up with a few ideas for the words of House Wylde, and I'd like your guys opinions on them, so I can choose the best one

"Take what they owe"
"From the waves, we rose
"Conquered by none"
"For, our nights are full of terrors"(this one would represent lord Casper's new devotion to R'hllor, but I'm not sure how house words can be changed so...)
"Devotion eternal"
"We bring the storm"

Thats what I have atm... thoughts? Or variation ideas?

[Silent Whispers]

So, I saw this and started watching my DVD set of GoT again, so I am interested, if there is still room.

Though, this will be my first Advanced roleplay and I know about the Lore more than the story since I have yet to read the books.

They're just so massive!! D:

But anyways, mind squeezing in another?

[agentmanatee]

Since @DeltaV ain't online atm I'll tell you, yes we are indeed open. We have 1 more cannon position open if you'd like that, OR you can create your own character. Rules are on the first page and I would read the character sheet template their for advice on what should be in your character sheet. It also has info on the RP in general

[agentmanatee]

Hey @FantasyChic what do you think of the house words for house Wylde? Which one do you think is best?

[DeltaV]

Yep, there's absolutely space for more people. In particular, we could use more non-knight types: Maesters, septons, that kind of thing.