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@mattmanganon power levels have been nonsense ever since they jumped from "over 9000" to Frieza being a million in the space of one arc.
@tobiax are we just waiting on the characters to be posted before we start?
There was definitely a scene where Frieza claimed he was only using 10% of his power, then Goku said he was only using 1% of his. Character statements may not be entirely accurate in this case, but I'd say SSJ Goku was stronger than Frieza.

Super Saiyan Blue vs Golden Frieza however? Frieza was stronger but burned out faster since he wasn't used to his new form.
@CaptainSully I'm surprised you're not more annoyed everyone ignored the plan and left Sam hanging.
So it seemed that there were fish in this lake after all. That would be useful information if they ever needed to come back to the cave, if nothing else it meant they could eat fish instead of char-grilling whatever possibly sentient creature they had most recently killed. Speaking of which, food was an issue that he would need to start addressing soon if the way his stomach felt was anything to go by; his lack of sleep too was becoming a concern according to the system message, but even without it the slight lethargy he was feeling in his limbs was indicator enough.

He really hadn’t been taking very good care of himself recently. Between adapting to an entirely new existence, the near-constantly battles of the last two days and meeting new people things like food and sleep had kind of slipped his mind. Once he had managed to find Digbie and left this cave the first thing he would need to do is address that before anything else.

From his elevated position it was possible for Oberon to see quite far around him, but when he finally spotted something it was actually fairly close to him. A single Dire Rat was fighting something further along the lake’s shore, something roughly goblin sized and shaped but from this distance clearly an off-white colour instead of the usual green. Curious, Oberon flew in that direction until he could see that what he thought was a goblin was in fact a goblin skeleton; or at least, it was a skeleton and it looked more like a goblin than anything else he had seen in this cave.

Was this a result of that message he had seen earlier? The cave had become a dungeon and one of its secondary elements was Death; was the cave beginning to spawn creatures now that it was a dungeon? Were undead like this skeleton going to start popping up more frequently? That might go someone towards explaining this weird existential dread he had been feeling ever since he had woken up.

Oberon used his Magic Analysis on the skeleton and then for good measure used it on the rat as well. The resulting system message informed him that the rat was a resurrected human like himself; were they one of the rats he had seen back at the bonfire, the one he had cured of poison? He wished he had asked for their names back then, or remembered them if they were said; at the time he was more focused on acquiring a skill which could remove the poison from the rats body.

Dropping down, Oberon hovered slightly above head height a few meters behind from the skeletal goblin. First he cast Shield III on the Dire Rat to protect them from harm and secondly he aimed a Mana Dart at the back of the goblin’s skull and let the attack fly; normally piercing skills were less effective against skeletons, but given how the attack had drilled a hole in the rock earlier he was hoping the spell would shatter the skull completely.



@SilverPaw
So the more I thought about it, the more I realised how not ok Rider would be with the way Archer is behaving right now. Surprisingly he's more upset at how bad of a guest Medb is being compared to the fact that he is halfway through destroying a church.
“To act in such a manner; his behaviour is disgraceful for one summoned from the Throne.” Standing at the rear of the group, Rider looked on disapprovingly at the spectacle of Archer arguing with the preacher. Beside him his Master also looked uneasy, the shorter gentleman shuffling in place from one foot to the other; though in his case his discomfort wasn’t just due to the theological aspect of the disagreement.

Dieter still felt out of place in this group, unprepared for what was to come, something that was only made worse when he turned to speak to his Servant, having the crane his neck just to see his face. “I wouldn’t have expected you to care Rider. This isn’t a temple to the Olympians.”

Frowning, Rider followed Archer with his eyes as the exasperated Servant stormed out of the room. Eyes narrowing in thought, he turned to look down at his Master before responding to his statement. “I have seen first-hand what the gods are capable of when they are angered; when a mortal attempts to fight against them, or if they do not pay the gods the proper respect, or if they arrogantly place themselves above the gods. The gods can bring us low and make fools of us whenever they choose. They are far stronger than any mortal, not matter how great; even if this building represents a faith I do not believe in, to tempt destruction in this way before a war is foolish.”

Rider paused as another person approached their group, both he and Dieter turning to listen as the man introduced himself as Archer’s Master. The other Master’s seemed to accept this easily enough, but Dieter was surprised; he had thought the masked man he had briefly met in the Clocktower had been the Master of the Archer-class, and while this man certainly dressed the same he was clearly not the same person he had met.

Letting out a sigh Dieter made a note to question someone about this later. This must have been something that was discussed prior to his arrival, his tardiness meaning he had missed something important.

“But that is not what troubles me.” When Aksha had finished Rider continued from where he left off, still frowning though in Archer’s absence his target had moved to the Magus who called himself his Master. “To behave in such a way as a guest, to destroy your host’s possessions and to even steal their object of worship; I have never witnessed of such an egregious breaking of hospitality. It may even exceed Paris stealing the wife of Menelaus in its evil. The gods do not take the breaking of xenia lightly. Paris brought about the fall of Troy with his transgression; let’s hope this man does not invite disaster upon us in the same way.”
@TheForgottenArc yeah, I think Double's new character is stuck there.

@Double I never finished it but Xenoverse had the recoloured Saibamen as well, but those were artificially empowered unbeknownst to everyone. Nappa says something about the soil on Earth being better than he thought if they were that strong.
I think the power increase from training should be judged based on what kind of training people do. I know that's more work for the GM and honestly, will probably cause some arguments, but it makes sense that someone who goes to train with Mr Popo in the time chamber would see more dividends than, say, Sam continuing to train with Kojiro.

Basically I want to see our efforts actually reflected in what kind of power increase we get.

As far as Saibamen go, it's a limited time solution. If Raditz used them here and then Nappa used them later, they would either be too strong now or too weak later on, since it makes sense that they would be the same strength both times; if I remember correctly their strength is based off of soil quality of something like that? At this point it doesn't seem like Raditz really needs the help, but he could still throw out some seeds in his next post with the justification of being annoyed having to fight so many people at once.

Then when Vegeta and Nappa show up rather than reuse Saibamen, maybe just have them bring a few jobbers from Frieza's army with them?
There needs to be more communication and if someone comes up with a plan then people need to actually stick with it. Things were going ok until Sam tried to use his Mistform technique and then instead of sticking with the plan everyone did their own thing.

Honestly, having the first fight be everyone on Raditz was always going to be messy. I was hoping having Daiko and maybe Josh on his side would make things more manageable but that didn't pan out.
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