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I suppose you're right. Swords are about as popular as they are today; used more for ceremony and as a wall mount for rich collectors. I'm not big on swords being used as a primary weapon in a world where everyone has a gun which can rip you limb from limb and there are Orbital defences which can put a round through an invading capital ship, just logic really. I can see their merit in close quarters though, and with an ancient organization such as the Knights Templar it is only right they have their own piece of history.
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That would be ok in my opinion...

I'm still putting off my CS for now until more info comes out but there is something floating around my head. : )
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Catharyn said
Hi Siphy! Ladies and Gentlemen, would you please welcome one of TSR's oldest veterans to the arena. He's probably as good at answering questions about Babylon and it's organizations than i am. Let me know if you want me to bring you up to speed on all the updated acronyms etc Siph.


Yes please Cathy, and also, is this right after the Fall of Babylon? Because it sure seems like it is.
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Of course, with the Knight's Templar order focusing on heavy armour the usage of strong shields capable of deflecting weaponry as rounds and modified swords so that they are as deadly as ever, of course they'd use guns aswell, however swords and shields is neccesary, like you said, with an ancient organization like this one.
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Cathy, I'm glad you're back at the TSR RP. I'm looking to make a character and I'm still on the drawing board as far as backstory and motivation. Just dropping this here to tell you that, and needless to say, I am interested.
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Hmmm..........I would prefer to be my own race (Probably the Ragon) but that doesn't matter.

Interested.
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Xanndros, what kind of character ideas are you toying with?

It's starting from roughly the same time as the first iteration Siphy, sorry it's not made that clear. The OP is a dream had by one of my characters at the start of the roleplay. Good to pique peoples interest. May or may not happen.

Sauron do you imagine they might use an expensive sort of kinetic barrier, like the kind used to shield spacecraft, as their defense? So projectiles would be absorbed by the field which is powered by a battery pack somewhere on their person. Makes more sense than a conventional shield which could only be so strong and unwieldy in a modern combat situation. It also means they have a hand free to use their gun. . What do you guys think? I don't know about you but i'd be more afraid of a big armored man walking through a battle and not going down, even with focused fire, than someone behind a shield.

NoSoul! Good to see you again :) I'm glad veterans have arrived because this is a big project and i could do with your insight. BESC (Babylon Executive Security Command) has replaced CSEC as the governing military body. What powers do you think they should have as opposed to centralized government? Are we having them as a kind of UNSC type dictatorship or an untrustworthy arm of the government or what? We didn't get their motives etc clear last time and it really bugged me.
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Mayhaps the field is projected from their forearm so it can be brought up quickly and taken away quickly
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Mayhaps the field is projected from their forearm so it can be brought up quickly and taken away quickly


Interesting, explain a bit more?
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A projector mounted on the forearm(would have power supply worked in) as a piece of the armor.
that way a knight could bring up a force shield quickly (by bringing his arm up in a shield stance) use it as cover and by putting his arm down the shield would deactivate keeping out of the way.
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Ooh. That's an option. It would make it more skill based rather than just 'our organization is incredibly wealthy and i've just bought a shield that protects me.' Of course the battery will run out as the kinetic shield works overtime to stop high velocity rounds etc. Interesting...
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Well yeah, a pistol shot wouldn't be much but stopping a grenade would drain the thing almost instantly.
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Force field it is, and a sword and gun is a great combo, so I will abide by your words and make my character now.
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Maybe very high ranking individuals have personal generators that form a "bubble" around them
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There could also be the possibility of when multiple Knights are present at a battle, they can link their shielding together to form a bigger force field and start protecting other soldiers or establishing a perimeter. Whole is greater than the sum of its parts etc. Just an idea. It'd be mighty good if you want to write up the official Faction sheet for the Knights Templar/ Red Cross if you have all the ideas straight with the group. :)
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I will write up the faction sheet and my character right now then, wish me luck. xD
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Good luck :)

Include the name, history, structure and hierarchy etc, and unique weaponry and tech and you'll be fine. I'll get back to work on the OP. After describing Edessa, Actim and RĂ©union i'll get onto factions, tech and weapons. ^^ Sorry i'm so slow.
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Faction Name:
The Knight's Holy Cross [The Red Cross]

History:
The past of the Knight's Holy Cross, or as their cover up name, the Red Cross Corps is clouded by secrecy and time. Whilst the Knight's Holy Cross is without a doubt ancient to all standards the Red Cross is simply a cover up name, a way to recieve money and produce weaponry and armour for the Knight's of the Holy Cross. The order is apparently eternal, ever present, in the eyes of the people and above all in the eyes of the knight's who serve the order itself. The reason they fight, however, has changed along the years, and so has the way they go about fighting them.

Structure:
The structure of the Knight's Holy Cross is a supreme monarchy like structure, two leaders, the Supreme Knight Commander and the Great Holy Priest, they rule united, but still seperate, the Great Holy Priest has command over the Red Cross and the Supreme Knight Commander is the Supreme Leader and at the same time, the leader of the Knight's Holy Cross. Inside the Red Cross is where all the non-military related things are located, with the exception of all the researchers who ultimately develope technology for the Knight's to use, such as the prototypal CSG device.

The Knight's Holy Cross is divided into seperate fire teams, seven to be exact, five soldiers each, one Priest of War, three normal knight's and a Knight Captain. Each have their own military quarters within Temple Tower, the main headquarters for the Red Cross Corps, and in the deep reaches or the top most levels are the knight's located, the higher the rank the higher up temple tower you have your hall, your personal space of operations.

Priest's of War are military knight's who are devote to the Iron Biblicon beyond belief, they carry it into battle alongst their brethren in war and chant the words, read the lines and bless the bullets of his and his fellows weapons when in battle, when the CSG is connected with multiple knight's the power is often centered around the Priest of War. During his off time, when he's not at duty he is inside temple towers praying halls, deep down in the earth, it is here that they pray.

Tradition:
An orginization such as this one, the Knight's Holy Cross is centered around tradition. They follow tradition to a scaringly morbid point, not going off the path of how it is stated in the Iron Biblicon that you kill a soldier, a civilian and a non-pure being, how to execute, it is all text book perfect. According to the fine lines of the Iron Biblicon the usage of titanium woven cloth is to be used by all soldiers, placed around the waist and go down to the ground, not before, nor after, but just above the ground. Titanium woven cloaks tinted in both black and white are also placed around their bodies whilst in full battle armour, tradition states so, and so they shall follow.

The usage of ancient weaponry is also stated in the Iron Biblicon, Swords and Lances, modified however the templars wish, however they shall be used, a sword modified and produced to current day quality, capable of cutting straight through armour via vibrating blades, or pure thermal power, many types of weapons are made for these reasons by the Red Cross. Lances are also used, modified to maybe act as a range weapon whilst being perfectly qualified for melee use at the same time, this is one of the most popular modifications for the Lance, however, whilst most knight's use a longsword and a handheld weapon, the higher ranking knight's have imbedded weapons into their armours, giving them space to use either sword or lance.

There are many other thing's written in the Iron Biblicon not stated here, but they follow them textbook perfect aswell.

Temple Tower:
Temple Tower is a massive tower built by the 'Red Cross Corps' in the inner most reaches of Babylon. Away from the outside, hugging onto the sky tower like a child does it's mother, Temple Tower is incredibly tall, easilly the secound most tallest structure in the entire city state of babylon, secound only by the Skytower itself which reigns supreme on the skies. Temple Tower is what it is, a temple and a tower, a temple for the Knight's Holy Cross and a tower for the Red Cross. Whilst it is officially called Temple Tower it is unknown to the public that the Knight's Holy Cross operate from this very grand structure. There are hundreds of levels both up and down, whilst the Knight's reside below ground there are a few exceptions to this rule for the higher ranking knight's. The vast labyrinths below ground are military complexes for the training of the knight's aswell as armories, research labs and many more, there are hundreds of secret exists for the Knight's to use and many more halls for the knight's to spend their time inside. The Temples underground complex even has three hidden hangar bays with hidden exit's for VTOL (transport)aircraft.

Other:

This is the standard armour for the standard knight's, the higher ranking knight's use advanced versions with multiple layers of armour upon the original design aswell as arm and back mounted weapons, hilt's for swords and if they use a lance there will be not holster for a handheld gun, the more advanced armour types also wear either white or red capes held in place under the shoulder plates, the scanners who allow the soldier within the armour to see are also replaced with a red instead of blue to allow infra red and thermal vision.
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Xanndros, what kind of character ideas are you toying with?It's starting from roughly the same time as the first iteration Siphy, sorry it's not made that clear. The OP is a dream had by one of my characters at the start of the roleplay. Good to pique peoples interest. May or may not happen. Sauron do you imagine they might use an expensive sort of kinetic barrier, like the kind used to shield spacecraft, as their defense? So projectiles would be absorbed by the field which is powered by a battery pack somewhere on their person. Makes more sense than a conventional shield which could only be so strong and unwieldy in a modern combat situation. It also means they have a hand free to use their gun. . What do you guys think? I don't know about you but i'd be more afraid of a big armored man walking through a battle and not going down, even with focused fire, than someone behind a shield.NoSoul! Good to see you again :) I'm glad veterans have arrived because this is a big project and i could do with your insight. BESC (Babylon Executive Security Command) has replaced CSEC as the governing military body. What powers do you think they should have as opposed to centralized government? Are we having them as a kind of UNSC type dictatorship or an untrustworthy arm of the government or what? We didn't get their motives etc clear last time and it really bugged me.


Perhaps they've become a UNSC like dictatorship after years of them being an untrustworthy arm of the government. Military coup or a slow takeover through multiple elections being in their favor. SPACE-POLITICS!
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Perhaps they've become a UNSC like dictatorship after years of them being an untrustworthy arm of the government. Military coup or a slow takeover through multiple elections being in their favor. SPACE-POLITICS!


Yeah I thought a slow takeover would be interesting. Shading it from the public eye whilst quietly gaining the support of politicians and parties etc. I like space politics.

Ooh wow, nice faction Sauron! I think we can accept that, there are a few things we need to revise though. Firstly with your character, he's overpowered. He can't be three meters tall to start off with, that's almost 10 feet tall! He's also a tiny bit too old. Humanity has greatly increased their lifespan but 353 isn't consistent with the improvements. Take one hundred years off that age and it's just about okay.

Secondly, there are some very tall towers in Babylon. On the outskirts the buildings are relatively low down by comparison and a massive tower out there would cause massive suspicion. Could we not make it a little more inconspicuous? Maybe knock off a couple of floors and such? Underground facilities are okay up to a point but there may or may not be something else under the ground which could interfere with it.

Lastly, could you explain in a bit more detail, Arthur's motive for changing the Order's ideology to worship death? Either on the thread or in PMs if its important that it remains a secret. Just want to know so i can work some bits and pieces around it. It's perfectly alright, i was hoping for some goals more economically or politically minded because i was thinking about having them be a contender for a hostile takeover.
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