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Made some more edits to my NS, fleshed out the economy and started working on the explody bits and the bits that go boom.

Feedback always appreciated ^^
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@LloydTurquoise I like it, and only if you want to be included :)
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and started working on the explody bits and the bits that go boom.


Those are always the best bits! ;)
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The Namilee have two basic methods of dealing with aliens:

1. Make friendly with them. Try to establish transmissions; try to learn about them and figure out what their situation is; try to be peaceful.

2. Avoid them. Aliens can be dangerous.

Perfect, the Mabronnans react well to simply being approached respectfully and presented with a gift as a sign of goodwill. The gift need not be much and can even be a token gesture as it is symbolic.
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Here I am, doing science on how gravity affects objects and the required mass of such to help me find a way to make artificial gravity possible, then I end up on an article about thermonuclear detonations on Mars.

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Perfect, the Mabronnans react well to simply being approached respectfully and presented with a gift as a sign of goodwill. The gift need not be much and can even be a token gesture as it is symbolic.


Noted, but the Namilee won't know about that at first. They won't understand they're expected to present a gift, and they'll have to breach the communication barriers between themselves and your species.
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Noted, but the Namilee won't know about that at first. They won't understand they're expected to present a gift, and they'll have to breach the communication barriers between themselves and your species.


True, the respect part might have to suffice first. The Mabronnans would be understanding of a cultural difference regarding the symbolic gift. Communication barriers would be tricky though. Unless Haelamera is giving us all a common language, then we have to find a way to make the Mabronnans' first impression of the Namilee is not just "They smell delicious."
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Here I am, doing science on how gravity affects objects and the required mass of such to help me find a way to make artificial gravity possible, then I end up on an article about thermonuclear detonations on Mars.



Just use rotational gravity/centripetal force unless you want to go full scifi with gravity generators.

Also, that's not the strangest thing I've ever gotten to while doing RP stuff, I remember I was once looking up fantasy Japanese soldiers for another NRP (my prize Fuso-waifu <3) got to a thing about Unit 731's secret projects and this fine chap:
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True, the respect part might have to suffice first. The Mabronnans would be understanding of a cultural difference regarding the symbolic gift. Communication barriers would be tricky though. Unless Haelamera is giving us all a common language, then we have to find a way to make the Mabronnans' first impression of the Namilee is not just "They smell delicious."


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Noted, but the Namilee won't know about that at first. They won't understand they're expected to present a gift, and they'll have to breach the communication barriers between themselves and your species.


I so happen to have universal translators

It makes sense for my Empire since I have to communicate with the slaves on a day-to-day basis and some of them may not have the ability to speak like a X'Cor
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I so happen to have universal translators

It makes sense for my Empire since I have to communicate with the slaves on a day-to-day basis and some of them may not have the ability to speak like a X'Cor


Are universal translators a thing, then?

If they are, and if the Namilee were invaded by the X'Cor, wouldn't that have exposed them to the concept? And then they might actually possess universal translators themselves.
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I so happen to have universal translators

It makes sense for my Empire since I have to communicate with the slaves on a day-to-day basis and some of them may not have the ability to speak like a X'Cor


Hmmmm. Rather ironic. The X'Cor have the capability to speak with the Mabronnans but are massive racists and probably won't show respect.

Also, @Shorticus the Mabronnans curiosity would be piqued by the advanced materials the Namilee possess and their complete lack of weaponry. Hope the Namilee won't panic as large reptile aliens get a little too close and start sniffing.
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Wait, how they a democracy when they all are influenced by the slime?

Is it like President Xi jinping?


Nothing like that, by president i just meant 'leader' given I have no official titles up yet. The mat is always in command, and all critters are legally extensions of their mat.
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Are universal translators a thing, then?

If they are, and if the Namilee were invaded by the X'Cor, wouldn't that have exposed them to the concept? And then they might actually possess universal translators themselves.


Hael has not said anything, or noticed, it in my form so I assumed that it was fine.

It could have, but I believe the Namilee had more pressing issues to worry, such as the X'Cor military fleet going after them hardcore. However, your face did communicate, even uplifted, civilizations so it could very well be a thing for your people.
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As an aside...

The reason I haven't made a flag for my nation is I don't see the Namile ever having NEEDED a flag. Flags are tools to unify people, but what good are they when a people unifies itself?

I may reconsider that decision, as I absolutely LOVE making flags, but that was my original thought.

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Honestly, this is a good decision. We COULD add hundreds of stars to the map, or make it super huge, but that'd be strenuous.

Instead, I vote we just remember the stars on the starmap are the most "vital" stars, and there are potentially many more in each region of space that are not shown but are still involved in the given conflicts.


As an aside...

The reason I haven't made a flag for my nation is I don't see the Namile ever having NEEDED a flag. Flags are tools to unify people, but what good are they when a people unifies itself?

I may reconsider that decision, as I absolutely LOVE making flags, but that was my original thought.

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Honestly, this is a good decision. We COULD add hundreds of stars to the map, or make it super huge, but that'd be strenuous.

Instead, I vote we just remember the stars on the starmap are the most "vital" stars, and there are potentially many more in each region of space that are not shown but are still involved in the given conflicts.


@Brink_ That looks better, in my opinion.


Very well, @Brink_'s map is approved!

This is now our official map. If you all want it, then I will replace the shitty map in the OP with a blank version of this one, which has nothing on it but Xim Initiative and Sol Federation. Does that sound good to everyone?

It's very barebones, but here is my CS. There are bits of WIP but you can kind of get an idea for them in the other parts that I've done.

Nation Name: The Doctrinate of Heilagur



Population and Demographics:
Total = 29 Billion

Human: 90%
Alsibass: 10% (Going through a population boom)

18 solar systems.
11 Gas Giants
34 planetoids (Both planets and natural satellites)
6 inhabited planets.
- Heilagur (Boreal world, Human majority)
- Fristgol (Tropical moon, Human majority)
- Pyre IV (Oceanic world, Human majority)
- Divlo II (Oceanic world, Human majority)
- Alsis (Arid world, Alsibass majority)
- Cadril's Moon (Temperate moon, Human majority)









Important people, places, and organizations:
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Weapons technology
WIP

General Technology:
WIP





I love it! Super-accepted, now super-please put it in the character section, if you haven't already.

The big aliens that have the toothy grin and are all muscular.


I thought that was the X'Cor and some of the Xim (you haven't seen them yet but, guys, some Xim are fucking huge)

Anyone willing to have shared history or relations with the Glorious Akkab?


I am!

I'll PM you in a couple of hours- I think I have an idea.

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I so happen to have universal translators

It makes sense for my Empire since I have to communicate with the slaves on a day-to-day basis and some of them may not have the ability to speak like a X'Cor


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Are universal translators a thing, then?

If they are, and if the Namilee were invaded by the X'Cor, wouldn't that have exposed them to the concept? And then they might actually possess universal translators themselves.


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Hael has not said anything, or noticed, it in my form so I assumed that it was fine.

It could have, but I believe the Namilee had more pressing issues to worry, such as the X'Cor military fleet going after them hardcore. However, your face did communicate, even uplifted, civilizations so it could very well be a thing for your people.


Actually, I meant to get around to telling you- you have to get rid of the Universal Translators. I think it's OP and unrealistic.

I'm sorry.

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@Hael So, communication therefore must either be standardized within empires or else individuals must learn numerous languages, aye?
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@Hael So, communication therefore must either be standardized within empires or else individuals must learn numerous languages, aye?


Not exactly. I'm going to allow them, just not quick ones.

@Lauder, I just updated the "Controversial Technologies" section of the OP with a bit on Universal Translators.

Here, so you don't have to go hunting for it:

Universal Translators:

There are hundreds of different species, all with different cultures, different biology, and different brains... and some device can magically understand them all instantly?

Please tell me you're joking.

Even with the most advanced Sci-fi technology, I see no way this could be possible save over-powered telepathy, and we already discussed the limitations of telepathy.

Furthermore, even if it were possible, I don't like the idea of everyone just understanding eachother off the bat. It's too convenient, too easy, and too boring.

So no easy universal translators, although I WILL allow devices that can translate a language after being given some time and a lot of samples to work with. Thus, if you desire a machine that can translate speech for you, I will allow it granted that the machine does so only after spending several days or weeks attempting to understand the new language- and, once the language is learned, can translate it from then on.

To recap: Universal translators are only allowed if they learn a language slowly, over days or weeks.
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@Hael

I can agree with you on OP and such, but unrealistic is something I do happen to disagree with. While it may not be a perfect universal translator, with one language blueberries is a noun and the other may be a verb, I believe it could be developed in the end. Regardless, you are the GM and I must obey, though there will be some sort of translations system going through my empire to help communications between slaves and their X'Cor masters. Plus body language is a valid thing, little differences here and there, yet all mean just about the same things.

Back to the olden forms of communication to a foreign species I suppose, shoot the shit out of it until it dies
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@Haeloh the military size thing you brought up earlier, what about nations that don't have a 'military' in the conventional sense?

Each mat controls a fourth of its planet (as a result of the Unifying Pact that forms the basis of my law) and each mat inevitably possess it's own personal defensive forces amoung the critters.

So as a result I have hundreds of independent militaries, each with a population of... One?


x'D I suppose so.

You can leave off the "Military Size" section, but I still need you to explain how the mats defend themselves.
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@Hael

I can agree with you on OP and such, but unrealistic is something I do happen to disagree with. While it may not be a perfect universal translator, with one language blueberries is a noun and the other may be a verb, I believe it could be developed in the end. Regardless, you are the GM and I must obey, though there will be some sort of translations system going through my empire to help communications between slaves and their X'Cor masters. Plus body language is a valid thing, little differences here and there, yet all mean just about the same things.

Back to the olden forms of communication to a foreign species I suppose, shoot the shit out of it until it dies


I think you may have missed the post I just tagged you in.

Universal translators are allowed, just not fast ones that can translate automatically. The machine should take days or weeks to learn the new language, and can only translate it after it has been learned.

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Back to the olden forms of communication to a foreign species I suppose, shoot the shit out of it until it dies


Xenodiplomacy at its finest right there folks, take notes kids
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