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I meant in as with the Count of Saint Germain, who was said to be Nicholas Flamel (or his wife), among various other people. This open a precedent on Typemoon lore for him to be another individual, not just similarities in legends.


So you see that the similaritys are there? Do you not think they would notice these similarity if they met? I presented this earlier, but for example: if Merlin met Myrddin Wyllt I would assume you would concede that they would notice how similar they were?
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So, should I be planning to stab Diarmuid or not?


Go forward with it. I'll be posting in an hour or two anyway. I should be off of this discussion now.

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Bottom line of my arguments. Don't try to turn Fate into a literature class, for the love of God. We have Gilgamesh wearing a Gold Platemail and swinging around a drill that can pierce the heavens! (to name one of the countless absurdities) Making sense of this kind of stuff is pointless in the extreme.

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So you see that the similaritys are there? Do you not think they would notice these similarity if they met? I presented this earlier, but for example: if Merlin met Myrddin Wyllt I would assume you would concede that they would notice how similar they were?


Nope, Merlin is alive, he can't have a double no matter how hard you try to make it be.
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@KoL: They do actually explain Frankie as a real person, and I apply that logic to all the other "from a story" Servants. They're just real in the Nasuverse.
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Right, so I need to get Medea away from Athena and go ask him something. Hmm.
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@KoL: They do actually explain Frankie as a real person, and I apply that logic to all the other "from a story" Servants. They're just real in the Nasuverse.


Ahh! I see. Well, it's not like I'm questioning this logic. For a point, I really, really would like to see Dom Quixote as a Rider, even if he's clearly a fictional character. I mean, if Tesla can be an Archer *shakes fist at Typemoon* I guess all is game.
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Honestly, I feel like as long as you can explain them being a real person in the Nasuverse, they work.

They... just have to be actually real(in the Nasuverse).

No Harry Potter Servants(someone actually tried that once).
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Honestly, I feel like as long as you can explain them being a real person in the Nasuverse, they work.

They... just have to be actually real(in the Nasuverse).

No Harry Potter Servants(someone actually tried that once).


B-b-b-b-b-but

Arthur has Merlin
Harry Potter has Merlin
Therefore Harry Potter has to exist in the Nasuverse ;w;
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So I think I mentioned that my take on Jack is a bit different from what was previously established, so I hope this doesn't come off as too jarring. ^^;
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I really, really would like to see Dom Quixote as a Rider, even if he's clearly a fictional character.


Don Quixote would be pretty awesome. I am guessing that he would have shit stats and ability's, but some sort of Reality Marble which shows his vision of the world and totally turns the tables on this.

Nope, Merlin is alive, he can't have a double no matter how hard you try to make it be.


Okay, this I think is where our divide is. You seem to think that I am insisting that similar servants be doubles to one another. Myrddin Wyllt would be his own existence, not a double, just as Sigurd is his own existence as well but that would not erase their similarity's to Merlin and Siegfried. Sigurd has a lot of similarity to Achilles for example, but their existences do not affect one another.

Bottom line of my arguments. Don't try to turn Fate into a literature class.


I dont know what to make of this at all. How does saying that Servants would recognize similarity's in one another do this?
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So I think I mentioned that my take on Jack is a bit different from what was previously established, so I hope this doesn't come off as too jarring. ^^;


Actually, I liked her much more like she's now. She sounds legitimately mentally damaged in a creepy cute way, I'd say so.
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Actually, I liked her much more like she's now. She sounds legitimately mentally damaged in a creepy cute way, I'd say so.


Yeah, that's how I usually try to make her come off as. I was a bit concerned that the previous take on her was a bit... Peppy, to put it lightly. ^^;

...I really seem to be rocking the whole mentally damaged "dark is not evil" thing this time around. XD
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And now I can go stab Diarmuid in the face, amongst other things.
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@Rin's Jack the Ripper Assassin is honestly one of her best-done canon characters.

She writes her awesomely! Endearing, but still creepy. Sympathetic, but also clearly unhinged.
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So, an important doubt came out while I was writing my post. Does the facility where our characters are have access to internet and, more importantly, wi-fi? Because it's kind of high tech looking, so I though it was possible, but since it's magical and mages usually abominate modern stuff, I needed to check first.
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@KoL Wanna team up with Cu and Athena? I think I could use another doggy. Or Lancer.
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@KoL: Yes, because the people that Zelretch got for the ordeal placed a lot of emphasis on technology.
Also because finding mistakes is easier in a clean environment.

(I'm basing a lot of this stuff off the Chaldea facility in GO.)

Edit: Obviously there's a filter on what can and can't be sent in and out, though.
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@KoL: Yes, because the people that Zelretch got for the ordeal placed a lot of emphasis on technology.
Also because finding mistakes is easier in a clean environment.

(I'm basing a lot of this stuff off the Chaldea facility in GO.)

Edit: Obviously there's a filter on what can and can't be sent in and out, though.


Oh, that's ok. Seyrun just wants to google Tama's name, nothing more. Why go through the hurdle of hours of search when a simple smartphone can get you all the lore you need?

@KoL Wanna team up with Cu and Athena? I think I could use another doggy. Or Lancer.


We can discuss this, but I believe Diarmuid is getting Rule Breaker'ed to the face now, so he would go to Medea.

Either way, we can see what will happen.
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So, I think @ADamnFiddle and I are just kinda stuck with Shinobu and Nezha since we have no idea what's happening with Felix and Diarmuid. I assume we should just hunker down and wait until Diarmuid is RULE BREAKER'd?
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So, I think @ADamnFiddle and I are just kinda stuck since with Shinobu and Nezha since we have no idea what's happening with Felix and Diarmuid. I assume we should just hunker down and wait until Diarmuid is RULE BREAKER'd?


Ya know, this kinda makes for a ridiculous scene.

Diarmuid: *Is all gallant with Nezha.*

Medea: "Stop being so sexy you damn jerk!" *Stabs Diarmuid's face and goes away nonchalantly.
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You know, I think it's worth remembering that this seems to be happening 2000ish, so technology's going to be a bit more limited.
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