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Done making edits to Ragnar
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Authority is barred in the modern day outside of very specific circumstances. Also this is a shard of the N U M B E R O N E Authority.

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Controlling the elements isn't the same as making Paracelsus-style Elementals. It's important to remember that Paracelsus makes them by taking a philosopher's stone (photonic crystal), which is itself a very prep-heavy thing, and then doing even more prep to it. They aren't an instant thing. You can have her able to make "Elementals" in the Paracelsus sense, but you'll need to explain how she's making them in the same way Para does.

Also granting plus corrections on top of HSDW isn't going to be permitted for balancing reasons.

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Justify the range.

Where is it generating that much magical energy from?

I'm assuming the plus modifier applies defensively in the case of offensive NPs below the Anti-Fortress level.

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I'm very confused by the range.

I'm not sure why a broomstick that amplifies magecraft is B rank.

The effect will be treated as magecraft amplification in the sense that, while using it, you'll win against something of equal rank.




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Since it's approved, go ahead and pop it into the Characters tab.




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You're born with Circuits, they don't manifest past a certain age. It's just a matter of if you learn how to open them (a magic senpai/parent realizes you have Circuits and trains you).

I'm assuming the Tohsaka/Aozaki mention is just as a comparable example.

Define what the fist wraps and gloves do.




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F is not a rank.

MGI isn't "how good you are at magic", it's "how much magical energy you can store". If they have no magical experience then it should be at the lower ranks, ie D or E.

Leave it at C.

Summoning wraiths is fine. Keep in mind the dangers of prana expenditures regardless, though.


I swear I can’t fucking keep up with all this new shit that keeps coming out of Grand Order and the Fate franchise’s bajillion spinoffs >_<

P.T. and Elemental were things I just added because they made sense with Baba’s lore. I can replace them with something else if they don’t work for whatever arbitrary reasons the wiki decided weren’t important enough to mention on the skills page. As for the hut, it’s mobile because that’s what it does in the legend :P

Seriously though, do you want me to justify it based on in-universe rules or do you just want a throwaway explanation as to why it can do that? Also I’ll agree with whatever rank you think the mortar and pestle should be. I just thought that since it was chariot-esque and capable of flight it should have a moderately high rank.
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I swear I can’t fucking keep up with all this new shit that keeps coming out of Grand Order and the Fate franchise’s bajillion spinoffs >_<

P.T. and Elemental were things I just added because they made sense with Baba’s lore. I can replace them with something else if they don’t work for whatever arbitrary reasons the wiki decided weren’t important enough to mention on the skills page. As for the hut, it’s mobile because that’s what it does in the legend :P

Seriously though, do you want me to justify it based on in-universe rules or do you just want a throwaway explanation as to why it can do that? Also I’ll agree with whatever rank you think the mortar and pestle should be. I just thought that since it was chariot-esque and capable of flight it should have a moderately high rank.


Potnia should be removed since Authority's a no-go and Potnia itself is super strong even among Authorities, so it's not the best move either mechanically or for balancing.

For Elemental, here's Paracelsus's skill from GO Mats.

Elemental: A+
The ability to make use of artificial spirits corresponding to the five elements. These spirits are called Elementals, or more informally Elemental Masses by Paracelsus. Exactly what it sounds like, they are existences created using a super-high density crystal as a base.
For example, a Fire Elemental Mass is made from concentrated flame, and can manipulate incredibly high temperatures. An Earth Elemental Mass becomes super-high mass, gaining a hardness similar to that of diamond. (As a note, the Ether Elemental Masses made from the element of Nothingness are different from Ether Clumps, so please be careful.)
Though it takes considerable labour to produce them, they can be used as effective familiars even in battles against Servants.


Ergo, he makes a philosopher's stone, then does even more stuff to it until it becomes a cool familiar guy. I'll need some sort of lore justification for how she's able to do this without a philosopher's stone.

Really the Mortar and Pestle doesn't do anything particularly special even by modern magecraft standards, so it should prollly be E.
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By designating a legend, he is able to make a single-word change into its nature, altering a core aspect of it and replacing it with something else. As it is an alteration to the a priori information itself, the nature of the existence itself is irrelevant.
Additionally, he is not freely able to alter legends. Rather, he can only change a single component of the legend in question, altering a given word within the legend into the word "Constitution". The United States Constitution is the one thusly referred to in this case.


That is a pretty weird NP. Can it straight up turn Servants into copies of the Constitution? Or is it only objects and details surrounding them? Can it transform NPs into the Constitution, and if so, do they still retain their abilities aside from their shape?

...Actually, the image of Achilles being forced to ride into battle atop a copy of the Constitution being pulled by three horses is kinda funny to me, if a bit out-of-place in an actual Grail War context.

Also, if the prana cost is low, does that mean it can be used repeatedly on a singly target over a short timespan, rapidly turning every aspect of their life into the constitution?
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Potnia should be removed since Authority's a no-go and Potnia itself is super strong even among Authorities, so it's not the best move either mechanically or for balancing.

For Elemental, here's Paracelsus's skill from GO Mats.

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Ergo, he makes a philosopher's stone, then does even more stuff to it until it becomes a cool familiar guy. I'll need some sort of lore justification for how she's able to do this without a philosopher's stone.

Really the Mortar and Pestle doesn't do anything particularly special even by modern magecraft standards, so it should prollly be E.


Yeah see I didn’t know that’s what those did because I haven’t read Prototype’s weird new... thing, and I regard Grand Order with the same distaste as a stale dog fart burrito. I was just going off the wiki. I’ll either find older, better explained skills to replace them or make up pretentious or silly-sounding names for my own custom ones (since that seems to be the standard modus operandi for literally every new GO Servant)

Also got it changing the rank.
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Would it be possible to make an application for Robert Rotten?
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That is a pretty weird NP. Can it straight up turn Servants into copies of the Constitution? Or is it only objects and details surrounding them? Can it transform NPs into the Constitution, and if so, do they still retain their abilities aside from their shape?

...Actually, the image of Achilles being forced to ride into battle atop a copy of the Constitution being pulled by three horses is kinda funny to me, if a bit out-of-place in an actual Grail War context.

Also, if the prana cost is low, does that mean it can be used repeatedly on a singly target over a short timespan, rapidly turning every aspect of their life into the constitution?


I won't go revealing the explicit strengths and weaknesses of it overtly, but all of the information needed to understand its strengths and weaknesses are given in the information.

It's worth noting though that while the prana cost is low, his MGI is still D.

Would it be possible to make an application for Robert Rotten?


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I won't go revealing the explicit strengths and weaknesses of it overtly, but all of the information needed to understand its strengths and weaknesses are given in the information.


You say that, but it doesn't help me understand. You don't have to explain anything, but know that if he uses it on Achilles I'm just going to have to interpret the exact nature of the effect on my own.

It's worth noting though that while the prana cost is low, his MGI is still D.


Fair enough.

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I believe my Caster is done if that is fine with everyone

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I believe my Caster is done if that is fine with everyone



Sorry, but both Casters have already been taken. One’s been apped, and mine is currently under review.
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Oops, its been a while since I refreshed since looking at my PMs. My bad from not noticing that hmmmm... (Spent a tad too much time trying to make Guinevere into a interesting servant)
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Oops, its been a while since I refreshed since looking at my PMs. My bad from not noticing that hmmmm... (Spent a tad too much time trying to make Guinevere into a interesting servant)


We're not necessarily doing things strictly on a first-come first-served basis. If two sheets get approved around approximately the same time, we're open to evaluating both and deciding between them.

With that said, I'll give your sheet a look-over in the morning, unless Fiddle gets to it first.
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We're not necessarily doing things strictly on a first-come first-served basis. If two sheets get approved around approximately the same time, we're open to evaluating both and deciding between them.

With that said, I'll give your sheet a look-over in the morning, unless Fiddle gets to it first.


And like that, here’s my revised sheet for you and @ADamnFiddle to look at:

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I don't mind giving the Caster spot to Turbo, with the servants we have right now I'd like to make a Lancer to even things out
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That should do it.

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If this is still open, I have a Master concept that needs brushing up and an F/GO Assassin in mind. I'll probably do some more reading up before I throw out my Master idea. As for my Assassin, I'm not sure if he will qualify or not. Seems like his skills are already translated, though.
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@Breo Oh, look, another Lancer application. And it's canon, too! I hope no one else submits another Lancer, since there's only room for two...

Also, since I already have your attention, I'll share a funny picture with you.



You should feel honored; you got @Cu Chulainn himself reading your applicatio for... Cu Chulainn. Maybe he's verifying the authenticity of his stats and parameters? XD
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The only Cu Chulainn app I will ever dare make myself is a not-Alter Berserker!Cu with Riastrad.

That being said, u-use me well...
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Remove the rank-up from elemental magecraft. I also question the logic of an A++ skill when her Divine Spirit aptitude is D, but I'll leave that to Fiddle.

You didn't reply to my comments on the range for both NPs.

I'm not really sure what makes these horsemen special. As an aside, it's good to remember that they won't be Servant-tier unless they take crazy crazy prep. Super Golem Man's golems, made with 800 year old materials over the course of days, are super below Servant-tier and it takes his NP to reach that realm, and Paracelsus's Elemental Masses, while capable of helping out in a fight against Servants (though not Servant-level themselves) require a crazy amount of prep including making a philosopher's stone.

Keep in mind if you're saying the Territory comes with a prana furnace, the time needed to deploy it will increase by a fair amount, in the interests of balancing, since we're talking about an NP-grade prana furnace without the limitations of something like the bookmonster.

Speaking of time, I'll talk to Fiddle about what a suitable length of time needed to set up the Territory and make a Horseman should be, and we'll get back to you on that.






That should do it.

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Unless Fiddle has objections, Cu's fine.



If this is still open, I have a Master concept that needs brushing up and an F/GO Assassin in mind. I'll probably do some more reading up before I throw out my Master idea. As for my Assassin, I'm not sure if he will qualify or not. Seems like his skills are already translated, though.


We have Sanson's Grand Order Materials, so he's good to go. The individuals for whom the "no full information" clause applies to are Strange Fake Servants, and Grand Order Servants released after the USAica chapter. That said, Grand Order Materials IV, covering everything up to and including Goetia, is coming out in just over a week, so if we're somehow still in the app process by then, the eligible Servants from there will be possible as well.
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