Decrying FF13 as objectively bad pretty much dismisses that. Maybe admit you are wrong or are blowing things out of proportion because Fab subjectively likes a game you don't.

Decrying FF13 as objectively bad pretty much dismisses that. Maybe admit you are wrong or are blowing things out of proportion because Fab subjectively likes a game you don't.

I was mentioning a series, if we are talking about games with black protagonists and I say I'd rather play GTA you'd be a special kind of moron to think I'm talking about GTA 1. So on the subject of tactical RPGs if I mention Valkirie Profile then I'm probably taking about the game in the series that's a tactical RPG. High level detective work I know, but you'll get your head around it.

Famitsu also gave Nintendogs a 40/40. Clearly other games have a lot to learn from this masterpiece.

I didn't say highest bidder, I said they put too much stock in presentation and legacy. You make the exact same argument when a Rockstar Game gets a 10/10 on the same big websites you are citing.

and, of course, enjoyable, iconic characters.

I mean, depending on who you ask (Motomu Toriyama) then Lighting is an iconic character. At least in Square Enix's eyes. But then this is the same company that thinks people think Terra is the good character from FF6 so hah.

Considering how like ten people have played, much less heard of, Covenant of the Plume compared to its relatively more well known predecessor titled 'Valkyrie Profile' it's not exactly a stretch to think you'd be talking about that one.

Yeah weird it's almost like the games are in different genres and are scored on different merits. What a concept.

Hey, fancy that, Famitsu gave GTA 5 a 40/40. Weird. Must be that Japanese legacy with regards to Rockstar games.

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Whether 10 people have played it or not is irrelevant. Its a tactical RPG with the prefix Valkyrie Profile, a very quick google search in good faith would confirm that, but I can see how trying to imply I think the first game is the wrong genre on a title specification is just that bit more juicy.

You mean like Smash Bros? I think I'm getting deja vu here.

Yes I would think the highest selling media product of all time might be getting some attention outside of the country it was made in, crazy stuff.

FFXIII is kind of a bad game tho. Not the worst FF, that honor belongs to Tactics A2, for shame.

Feel free to quote me saying it was objectively bad, I'll wait.

EDIT: And please stop white knighting, christ I can handle the Smugness and the passive agressive tone but good lord put down the holy lance.

This is a thread where everyone but especially fab, me, tex and yes you are shitting on games we don't like and defending games we do like, if you don't like that dynamic then post in another thread sir.

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Whe whe I'm upset people don't like the things I'm typing!

Also, I admit I might've jumped the gun on saying you were using objectively wrong but the implication is there when you are stating that someone just can't accept a game they like is objectively bad. Reading back you should be able to see that. Also, I am not "white knighting", I am making a point. Also, for the record, I will continue to use this thread to discuss gaming and if you don't like how I do it then you can file an official report. Otherwise, I'm here to stay.

Deal with it.

Newsflash i didn't say 'objectively bad' either, maybe youre in a lot of RPs right now so I'll cut you some slack when it comes to seperating fact from whats in your head, but it just didn't happen sir.

And I will continue to criticise games I dont like and defend games I do like in this thread that I created for that very reason, if you cant handle that without complaining about things being 'blown out of proportion' then you are the one who has to deal with it.

@Fabricant451
I think its more likely that you are defensive that you learned about a game you likely didnt know existed and are doing everything to pivot away from that.

Valkyrie Profile series has like 4 games in it. If youre too lazy to check which one I'm referring to, then I dont know what to tell ya.

And Im not the one defending Famitsu, dont spin that.

This is a thread where everyone but especially fab, me, tex and yes you are shitting on games we don't like and defending games we do like, if you don't like that dynamic then post in another thread sir.