When it comes to using aesthetics or the topic of them, I'm not a fan of aesthetics at all really. I'm one never to have the need of things like that as I'm more about detail and fundamentals in terms of choice and orientation of things in an IC. I don't think adding color would make that big of a difference.

If you do not put any effort into presentation then nobody is going to bother, bro.

When it comes to using aesthetics or the topic of them, I'm not a fan of aesthetics at all really. I'm one never to have the need of things like that as I'm more about detail and fundamentals in terms of choice and orientation of things in an IC. I don't think adding color would make that big of a difference.

To many that is a fundamental.

You want others to join you. They want aesthetics. If you want them to join you you need to put in more effort. You says you're going 100% but you also admit to not bothering with aesthetics.

Your posts may not need color, though it sure helps, but your OP and Interest Check do.

@rebornfan320

Maybe you need to take a moment, reflect on a pivotal decision you made? Did you ever do or say something to make people throw shade? If so what? Are you the problem? Or is the problem much larger?

The first step of rebuilding reputation is taking accountability, as well.

There are several examples of Good or Decent formatting in the OP. Here is an example of great formatting and presentation and all that. I remember her work even though I've never done an RP with her because it's that fucking purty.

OOC OP
roleplayerguild.com/topics/183907-ros…

Character Page
roleplayerguild.com/topics/183907-ros…

Every character has their own color, making it easier to know which character you are reading if you lose track.

OOC OP has a great format.

Title (centered)
Little Divider Line Things
Blurb about the RP and Setting
More Divider Line Things
Personal Introduction from the OP
Rules
Character Info/Guidelines
Deadline and Discord Link

Next Post is a list of all the Characters

Fucking aces.

Then you go to the Characters Sheet.

Fucking Aces.

All of them have plenty of information and stylish face claim things that usually tell you a little more about the character just from the images used. Half of these Character Sheets have more effort put into them than 90% of my Interest Checks. Aces goddamit.

One day I'm joining one of these as the asshole alcoholic groundskeeper/janitor and I'm gonna have a blast.

@rebornfan320

Maybe you need to take a moment, reflect on a pivotal decision you made? Did you ever do or say something to make people throw shade? If so what? Are you the problem? Or is the problem much larger?

I'll answer these as best as I can. I don't think I need to reflect on a pivotal decision I made at all. I feel the only thing i made to have people literally take swords and pitchforks at me like how Shrek got early in the movie was express my frustration at how bad my RP luck is and anything I tried didn't work or stick at all. I'm not the problem as I feel the problem is much larger, I feel it is the ghosters and their fault for hyping up someone's interest only to vanish on them.

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I'll answer these as best as I can. I don't think I need to reflect on a pivotal decision I made at all. I feel the only thing i made to have people literally take swords and pitchforks at me like how Shrek got early in the movie was express my frustration at how bad my RP luck is and anything I tried didn't work or stick at all. I'm not the problem as I feel the problem is much larger, I feel it is the ghosters and their fault for hyping up someone's interest only to vanish on them.

people dont owe you anything, and that's something i think you need to reflect on. people ghost for a reason. not saying you are an unpleasant person, but that the root of your problems dont lie with ghosting - it lies with why they ghost

Feel that way if you want man, but realize saying that over and over makes you look really bad. This shit is social which means its based around relationships. There are plenty of folks here I don't get along with outside of the forum but I don't bring that shit to the forum because I might still want to RP with them. It's social shit.

If you go around saying "Man I sure hate getting ghosted all the time, they're honor bound to keep posting with me" it's not quite the same but comes across similarly to me going on a date or hanging out with friends and saying "Man I sure hate my friends not including me in everything" or "Man I sure hate women not going on a second date with me or etc etc etc." It makes folks wonder why people ghost you and if perhaps they have made a mistake by starting this with you. The luck stuff doesn't help either.

Best foot forward means presenting yourself as, which ultimately means BEING, someone that folks would and do want to hang out with. If you're telling them how no one ever sticks around to RP with you, particularly if you are complaining about that and saying people should be punished for ghosting, they are not going to want to RP with you. It is a self fulfilling prophesy.

Someone said it earlier but its the same as the Nice Guy phenomenon.
If I meet a woman and things are going good and I say "I hope you go on another date with me, women never want to go on a second date with me, they never answer when I call, I hate it when they do that, they shouldnt be able to just ghost me, I'm a nice guy" it's not going to go over well. It's not the same thing as RP Ghosting, but you can see the similarities and even if you specifically can't most folks can.

@fledermaus I feel I do need an explanation as to why they would do such a dishonorable thing to do. From my experience, people just do it and ghost for no real reason outside of doing it knowing they can do that to people after getting them hyped up from sharing the same interest. Though I wish everyone looked at me in a way as I'm not an unpleasant person but just rather frustrated of having it happen again and again with no real end to it despite what I do effort wise.

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people dont owe you anything, and that's something i think you need to reflect on. people ghost for a reason. not saying you are an unpleasant person, but that the root of your problems dont lie with ghosting - it lies with why they ghost

Exactly to understand the reason for this you have to understand why this is happening and try to fix it.

“Dishonorable” – I think that pretty much sums up your problem, chief.

That kind of language over a communal hobby is at points both argumentatively melodramatic and off-putting, Nobody is going to value you as a writing partner in a group or individually if them not following your expectations is going to lead them to be treated like a soldier going AWOL during Vietnam.

people just do it and ghost for no real reason outside of doing it knowing they can do that to people

no they dont. from the bottom of my heart, im telling you, people dont just ghost to ghost. they arent sitting there thinking "haha i made him so excited for this rp im gonna ghost him now so he's upset"

i dont think anything i say will really get this point across to you, so im just gonna watch the thread quietly until the perfect moment for a one-line zinger.*

*(not anything mean POOHEAD i swear)

Reborn, I'm going to be real.
You should just stop roleplaying. Not because you're bad at it, or because you don't deserve to do it. But clearly it does not make you happy. I'd look for something that does, but clearly no one has given an answer you like in the three years you've been doing this so.

Reborn, I'm going to be real.
You should just stop roleplaying. Not because you're bad at it, or because you don't deserve to do it. But clearly it does not make you happy. I'd look for something that does, but clearly no one has given an answer you like in the three years you've been doing this so.

Poo's right, I haven't known you long but the Guild doesn't seem to be the happiest place for you. Find something else that makes you happy! Because everyone deserves happiness and your no exception.

I think you should at the very least try to do less of it. I've advised you this way before and you haven't listened but try joining RPs instead of GMing. It's a lot easier. If you still want to GM that's fine. Pick a story you want to GM and develop it. Not for a few hours. Not for a day or two. For weeks or months. Write iterations of it. Post it up in General Interest and see how folks respond. Remember this is collaborative so you're not just writing for yourself and your interests you're writing to bring others in. You need hooks. You need formatting and presentation, maybe not for you if you just really don't care but for others. They do care. You might be able to overcome poor formatting and presentation with some absolutely divine writing, but the presentation really isn't that hard.

Google some images for settings you like. Google Medieval Paintings or Fantasy Scenes or SciFi paintings or book covers. You could get more specific and Google Star Trek/Star Wars/Warhammer/Jurassic Park/Game of Thrones art. Get some images.

If you develop a setting with several different factions or world views or whatever that others can slot themselves into, or a setting with enough grounding to encourage people to want to come up with their own factions, while you are building rapport with users by posting in their stories then by the time those stories die out or finish or whatever you will have made some writing partner buddies and have a single well developed Interest Check and RP Starter.

This is much more likely to produce good results than typing out 50-100 Interest Checks a year.

These are ways to make the process easier. If that still is too much than just fuck the whole GMing thing. You don't need it to RP. I barely ever GM. Like maybe once or twice here. Just join RPs, or if that's too stressful too or you get too bummed out by being ghosted just read them. There's plenty to read and more every day.

@fledermaus I feel I do need an explanation as to why they would do such a dishonorable thing to do. From my experience, people just do it and ghost for no real reason outside of doing it knowing they can do that to people after getting them hyped up from sharing the same interest. Though I wish everyone looked at me in a way as I'm not an unpleasant person but just rather frustrated of having it happen again and again with no real end to it despite what I do effort wise.

People don't ghost just because they can, speaking from experience. Reasons I've ghosted include, but are not limited to:

Not jiving with my partner like I hoped.
Feeling like I'm not good enough to write with the partner I got.
My partner doesn't meet my expectations.
Work/School/Life/etc.
Feeling like shit because my muse died, and being too anxious to talk about it with my partner.

and being too anxious to talk about it with my partner.

--real talk this is something this entire website (including myself) need to get better at.

Well I don't understand it other than them getting people's hopes up only to bail on others that have it happened to me. I don't think it is melodramatic or off-putting because I am tired of having it happen to me time and time again as I want my fair shot but only to get shafted. I disagree with Fleder [nothing against you].

I am not going to stop roleplaying. I feel that would be giving to what everyone is telling me what to do when it comes to this as it feels like no one gets my side you know? I think I can never be happy and that eludes me in other areas as I feel I have no choice but to continue pushing desperately just to be understood and even to have my side looked at while wanting a fair shot. I am tired of just having the tablecloth constantly yanked out from under me because I am trying to get a fair shot like everyone else on an uneven playing field.

Happiness for me is basically a mirage like even a good RP even if I post an IC, I'll never obtain what any of you guys got. Good luck and consistent interest is in the same realms as a mirage no matter what I do. I don't have the options of everyone else as they got it better than me.

*facedesks over and over and over until I bleed*

Reborn. We are trying to help you. But you are not listening to any of us.

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--real talk this is something this entire website (including myself) need to get better at.

True.