[OOC] One Universe: World Of Heroes - A Marvel & DC Comics RPG

[Bounce]

@Hillan

I am sorely disappointed by the lack of Nick Cage in your CS.

[Hillan]

@Hillan

I am sorely disappointed by the lack of Nick Cage in your CS.

@Bounce

For now

[AndyC]

@Hillan

I am sorely disappointed by the lack of Nick Cage in your CS.

@Bounce

The sad thing is, there are three different heroes that could apply to.

[Master Bruce]

The awesome thing is, there are three different heroes that could apply to.

@AndyC

Fixed.

[Retired]

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S P I D E R - M A N

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^{_{P E T E R B E N J A M I N P A R K E R ♦ P H O T O G R A P H E R / S T U D E N T ♦ Q U E E N S , N E W Y O R K ♦ H O R I Z O N L A B S / D A I L Y B U G L E}}

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^{"You say you don't want the responsibility? Guess what? People like us... we don't get a choice."}

You all know the story of Spider-Man. I'm not intending on doing anything drastically different with his origins, aside from a little modernizing.

Peter was 16 when he first gained his powers, a junior in high school when he first donned the tights, and a senior when he began working at the Daily Bugle. He's in his second year at Empire State University now surrounded by new and old friends alike. His heroic career thus far has been mostly dealing with the Maggia's influence in NYC, with only a light sprinkling of more unusual foes - and a dash of Chitauri invasion. Peter's experienced as Spider-Man by now and has made several innovations and improvements on how he operates over the years. He's made allies in people like Dr. Curt Connors of Horizon Labs and Captain DeWolff of the NYPD.

After nearly four years of conflict with the Maggia, the status quo is about to change as the death of Silvio "Silvermane" Manfredi, the head of the criminal organization, sparks a shift not only in the syndicate but also the greater New York City underworld that will forever alter the lives of Peter Parker and Spider-Man.

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Most of you know that I've tried my hand at Spidey before in two games that were short-lived. Some of you also know that I wrote over eighty pages of notes for my first stint and an additional twenty for the second. Suffice to say, my passion for the character is boundless, and my ideas for the wallcrawler and the world he lives in evergrowing.

I don't want to write a Spider-Man who is radically different at the core. This is a Peter who has still dealt with loss and tragedy, who still needs to balance his personal and heroic lives. My version will just be doing that with less costumed baddies running amok. So far, at least.

Instead of throwing a constant influx of powered villains at Spidey for him to bounce around between, I want to develop each villain and faction I introduce and build them up in ways that make it feel like they are a genuine threat. I also want to have a more focused narrative that is finely woven together into a wide web that eventually covers all the major points of the Spider-Man mythos - but without rushing and forcing the narrative.

I'm starting this story off with a relatively experienced Spider-Man but also one who, until the previous year, hadn't had any personal encounters with the stranger aspects of the Marvel (and DC) universe. This gives me both an excellent jumping-off point but also a free and open path I can take. No burying the lead of potential amazing arcs by shoving them into a bloated backstory.

And, with how I am structuring Spider-Man this time around, I am fully able and willing to crossover and co-op with anyone immediately. No more slow-burn introductory arcs that prevent me from interacting until I finish. No more writing purely in my own little corner. At least when it comes to the East Coast and to where Spider-Man can physically go to, my goal is to get everyone's favorite webhead into the thick of things.

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The classic Spidey supporting cast will be present with some touches of modern additions. Peter's still living with Aunt May. He attends Empire State University with Harry Osborn, Flash Thompson, Mary Jane Watson, and Carlie Cooper. He grew up with Gwen Stacy who is spending time overseas after the death of her father.

He is employed at the Daily Bugle, the successful print and media newspaper, as a photographer. There he works with the likes of Betty Brant, a junior reporter with dreams of becoming an investigative journalist. Although often relegated to bit pieces, she and Peter often try to get pieces regarding the Maggia to see the light of day. Robbie Robertson is still Peter's boss and the current editor-in-chief of the Bugle, and a proven supporter of Spider-Man. Meanwhile, J. Jonah Jameson, former Bugle EIC and now owner of the Daily Bugle Network, a recent but major cable news station, is a vocal opponent of the webslinger. Ben Urich and Norah Winters act as DBN's on-air anchors and personalities.

Dr. Curt Connors, a geneticist and biochemist, former colleague of Peter's father, heads up Horizon labs - a genetics and technology research facility. He is an ally of Spider-Man and has aided the hero numerous times throughout the last several years, including the development of several gadgets and gear improvements. He works alongside his partner, Dr. Miles Warren, a professor of Peter's at ESU. Debra Whitman, ESU graduate student, and Michael Morbius, Greek transfer grad student, both round out the Horizon Labs roster as assistants for Dr. Connors.

Captain Jean DeWolff of the NYPD Major Crimes Unit, former partner of the late Captain George Stacy, aids Spider-Man when it comes to Maggia matters, and vice-versa. Yuriko Watanabe and Vin Gonzales, two young officers on the force, are more often than not the first on the scene of any criminal round-ups Spidey leaves behind. On the other end, paramedic Elias Wirtham supports Spider-Man on rare occasions when the latter is in rough shape and needs a bullet wound or two patched up.

While Peter has mostly contended with the Maggia over the last four years, he has had several encounters with some more traditional foes - albeit in somewhat less traditional means.

In his second year as Spider-Man, J. Jonah Jameson, convinced that the wallcrawler was a menace to society, hired private investigator Mac Gargan to follow Spider-Man and discover his true identity. This resulted in an embarrassing public display that left Gargan out of practice and a popular meme for several months. He has, more than once, apprehended Russian enforcer Aleksei Sytsevich, as well as Fred Myers and Anthony Davis, a pair of petty thieves who more often than not foul up their own plans before Spidey can even try to stop them. A string of jewelry and art heists sixteen months ago led Peter along a multiweek game of cat and mouse that led to the arrest of renowned international cat burglar Walter Hardy. And, less than a year ago, Peter found himself face-to-face with the horror of his mutated ally, Dr. Curt Connors, warped into a massive, humanoid reptile with a monstrous hunger. It took all of his strength and cunning to capture and subsequently revert the good doctor before any serious harm could be done.

Finally, also in the previous year, Peter found his and the planet's world rocked as the existence of aliens became undeniable during the Chitauri's invasion of New York City. For the relatively brief duration of the conflict prior to the Avenger's victory, he worked tirelessly in defending the citizens on the streets and in their homes from collateral damage.

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The bullets whiz by me as I effortlessly twist mid-air, whipping out one arm and firing off a web-line that snags a nearby pillar and pulls me to safety. The dull buzzing at the base of my skull dies away as the four armed men stop to reload.

I stifle a yawn. Don't want to embarrass Silvermane's newest recruits during their first day of the job.

I'm tired after my late-night cram session with Harry and the gang. Professor Warren had really been pushing us lately and I'd barely gotten four hours of sleep the night before. Besides, if I were to be honest with myself... I was bored. These prototypical Maggia thugs were boring.

"Listen, guys." I offer with my best calming voice, arms up in an innocent gesture. "We all know the deal here by now. You shoot at me, you miss, I punch you, you cry, I web you up, you get arrested, and Silvermane doesn't pay for your bail. Do we really want to do this song and dance again? Don't you know the old adage 'those who don't study history are doomed to repeat it?'"

Goon one, the sloppiest of the bunch wearing a greasy t-shirt with poorly slicked back hair, casts a nervous glance at his compatriots.

I continue, pressing the advantage. "And, really, what's the goal here? You shoot me in broad daylight and skip off into the sunset? Not even your boss could get you out of that one, there are cameras all over this city now. Not that he'd even try. Do you know how many of you guys he's gone through the past four years? Do you really just want to be another statistic for him to forget about in a week?"

Hired muscle two and three, though both were seriously lacking in the muscle department, nodded along. I could see I was winning them over.

"So, you just going to let us go?" The last of the four piped up, his voice a mix of disbelief and hope.

My shoulders sag. I know what's coming.

"Well... no," I admit reluctantly. "You did just shoot at me. And you were trying to extort that nice old lady at the laundromat. Plus, I'm pretty sure I saw you kick a cat as you ran away. Not cool, dude."

"Screw that, asshole!"

The sigh barely escapes my lungs before that oh-so-familiar buzzing tickles my brain. I'm leaping into a frontflip before I can even process my own actions.

"Right. You kick the cat and I'm the a-hole."

As the action starts and my limbs connect with Silvermane's soon-to-be-former henchmen, this time I don't bother to conceal my yawn.

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WIP

[Bounce]

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The sad thing is, there are three different heroes that could apply to.

@AndyC

I just assume that @Master Bruce's Superman is based on the Nick Cage screen test.

[Master Bruce]

I just assume that @Master Bruce's Superman is based on the Nick Cage screen test.

@Bounce

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low-key wonders if it's too late to rethink my entire concept

[Supermaxx]

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low-key wonders if it's too late to rethink my entire concept

[snipped cursed image]

@Master Bruce

Mmmm do not like this image

[DocTachyon]

Batman is sampled up and ready to rock! You will note that the Supporting Cast is empty, mostly because I want to see what the lay of the land is with supporting Bat-cast being nabbed by other players. And I was maybe hoping to snag a few X-Men for the Batman Inc. roster, so I'm waiting for an X-Player to help me make those decisions.

[webboysurf]

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R E D H O O D / A R S E N A L

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^{_{Jason Todd/Roy Harper ♦ Former CIA and Team 7 Secret Agent/Former Army Ranger and Team 7 Marksman ♦ Texas, USA ♦ Outlaws}}

C H A R A C T E R C O N C E P T:

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^{"You know... they really left us hanging there."}

^{"If we weren't hanging upside down right now, I would punch you."}

What if you removed the mentors from two incredibly flawed former sidekick characters and had them team up and go around the country fighting crime? Well, you would get this take on the Outlaws that I've whipped up. A huge part of Jason Todd's arc as the Red Hood has always been rooted in revenge and pain. Beaten within an inch of his life and managing to survive, Jason takes on a new mantle and enacts bloody revenge on criminals. Roy Harper, on the other hand, is a grounding and inherently funny character. He's always trying to prove that he's a hero despite his past actions and his very, very serious character flaws. These two characters have had their own comics run as a duo, and they work well in the setting of a world much like our own. One in which a country is torn, divided, and in need of unconventional heroes.

Jason Todd, in this iteration, was a CIA operative. He was a poor orphan from the streets of Gotham who wanted to make something of himself... so he took every opportunity he could to become someone. He started out doing simple intelligence gathering when he was recruited by the CIA, learning the arts of infiltration and close quarters combat. His skillset saw him recruited by the elusive group known as Team 7, a U.S. Black Ops team tasked with keeping the world "safe" from all threats. He's been with Team 7 until a fateful event six months ago while infiltrating the League of Assassins (where he had further honed his skills). He was sold out by a member of the League, and taken to a warehouse in Vlatava. There, he was beaten with a crowbar within an inch of his life by an unknown assailant wearing a red hoodie and a simple black mask. He was left for dead, with a simple message: Vertigo sends their regards. Since then, he was discharged from service in Team 7 after psych evaluations have found him to be too vengeful and unstable for active service.

Roy Harper's past is a lot simpler. He was a kid who, from a very young age, had impeccable aim. He learned of his skills in handling a rifle and a bow and arrow at a young age at a Boy Scout camp in rural Oklahoma. He was so good, in fact, that he started to compete in local competitions. Hell, he even became a small legend in the circle of competitive archery, even being slated to compete in the 2012 Olympic Games on behalf of the USA. Unfortunately, his life took him in a different direction when drug tests outed that he was a heroin addict. He lost all respect within the archery community and barely managed to graduate high school as he was sent out to rehab. His life changed when he got clean and met an Army recruiter by happenstance at a bar. It would give Roy exactly what he had always wanted: purpose. He proved himself to be, once again, and amazing marksman. So amazing that he rose through the ranks quickly, before being picked up by Team 7. He served as a designated Marksman for the Team on dangerous assignments, and met Jason Todd through Team 7. About a year ago, though, Roy resigned from his position to take care of his ailing father, who ended up passing only months ago. Since then, Roy has decided to make it his mission to see the country that he fought and bled for. His mission was interrupted when he saw a very familiar face walk into some rundown bar in some barely known one road town in rural Texas.

C H A R A C T E R M O T I V A T I O N S & G O A L S:

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Jason and Roy have one thing in common: they believe deeply in protecting other people. Jason Todd wants answers as to who exactly beat him within an inch of his life, but more importantly wants to find a new purpose. When he reconnects with Roy in a bar and ends up fighting off some men associated with the Aryan Nation, Jason finds a new purpose: removing those racist scum from the face of the Earth. His deeper motivation, though, is an outlet for the anger and rage that is pent up inside as a result of both his injury and his commanding officers' lack of investigation into the matter.

Roy's motivation shifts very quickly within this story. He starts just wanting to see the nation he fought for, since he never really got to actually travel and just see the country for what it was. The problem is that the nation Roy stumbles upon isn't the ideal that he fought for. So, Roy has to pick up his bow once again to fight for a future and the ideal that he had fought for once again: a land of the free, where every man is born equal.

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Team 7

John Lynch: The former leader of Team 7, John Lynch is secretly a telekinetic metahuman. He is a cold and calculating man, and there's more to him than meets the eye.

Slade Wilson: One of the most experienced and toughest soldiers in Team 7, Slade has always been in it for one thing: the glory of combat. However, following his son Jericho falling terminally sick, Slade has been trying to find new ways to make money to save his dying son. Who knows where this has led him...

James Bronson: A hero through and through, James Bronson was an intelligence operator for Team 7 who, following Jason and Roy's escapades, will be tasked with bringing in the two men to answer for their crimes.

Dinah Drake: A special agent working for Team 7 and the first member of the organization to develop metahuman abilities. Dinah often worked on assignments with Jason (The Sparrow) under the callsign "Canary."

The Aryan Nation / Brigade

White Dragon: The leader of the Aryan Brigade as a whole, and secretly a vigilante in Dallas, Texas that targets minorities in particular, William Heller is a highly trained soldier with money lining his pockets. He has taken on the title of "White Dragon" as the head of the Aryan Nation, and uses his money and influence to influence police departments and get his hands on experimental technology to aid in his plan for the extermination of "inferior races." He has even gathered white supremacist metahumans together and spun the press into calling them the "Freedom Force."

Heatmonger: One of the Aryan Brigade's militant operatives, Heatmonger is a blonde haired woman with experimental flamethrower gauntlets courtesy of one William Heller. She is a member of the Freedom Force

Backlash: A metahuman with the ability to elongate his arms and manipulate them to form squid-like tendrils. He is a member of the Freedom Force.

Iron Cross: A metahuman with super strength who serves in the Freedom Force.

Golden Eagle: Not directly connected to the Freedom Force, Golden Eagle is a former marine who now acts as a vigilante and leads the militarized Aryan Brigade wing of the Aryan Nation.

Blind Faith: She is not a direct member of the Freedom Force, but is always around when they operate publicly. She has telepathy, and uses her abilities to force people of color to admit to crimes openly that they have never committed... or perhaps convince them to commit the crimes themselves.

Their Pasts

Chesire: Jade Nguyen is a member of the League of Assassins, and has been tasked with tracking down Jason Todd and making him answer to the League for his infiltration and "stealing" of trade secrets. By her own right, Jade Nguyen is an incredibly skilled assassin and a brilliant toxicologist. She has killed many of her victims by use of poisons and toxins.

Count Vertigo: Werner Zytle was a brilliant chemist and a member of the Vlatavan royal family... before all of his family was executed publicly in a bloody militaristic coup four years ago. The former Count was nearly killed himself by a sniper bullet after his new steward (Jason Todd in disguise) tricked him into getting in position. Since then, Werner Zytle has taken on an alias (Cecil Adams) and has started up a new crime syndicate called Vertigo. Werner has been cooking up powerful new drugs that have been hitting the streets and using the money he's been gathering to build up his organization until it's strong enough to take back his country... but not before he gets revenge on the people who tried to kill him.

Basilisk: A metahuman terrorist organization that believes in granting superpowers to the world at large to prevent a future in which only a select few powered individuals control the world's politics. The movement had a basis overseas, and was a frequent target of Team 7's operations. Basilisk mostly operates from the shadows, and was last concretely tied to the Vlatavan Royal Family. Who knows what they've been planning since then...

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Taste of Violence

_{Some Shithole, Texas, USA - Present Day}

Issue 1.01.01: Taste of Violence

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_{Interaction(s): None}

Previously: None

"How do you do it? How do you just live like this?"

Sitting across the table from the speaker was a red-headed, lean man in a sleeveless red mechanic's vest. He had on a simple baseball cap with an American flag emblazoned across the front of it, and blue jeans that were ripped and worn around the knees. He was currently in the midst of devouring a triple bacon cheeseburger, juices and sauces dripping down his chin and onto the plate below. Roy Harper set the burger down for a moment, chewing the giant bite of food that he took as he grabbed a napkin from the dispenser on the side of the table to wipe the liquids off his mouth before responding. "What's that supposed to mean?"

Jason Todd sighed. He felt out of place in a run-down bar in some basically no-name town in Texas. He was wearing a designer black turtleneck with the sleeves rolled up and black slacks. His hair was carefully constructed and gelled to look somewhat messy. As Roy answered, Jason leaned back in his seat. "How do you not want to get back into the action? You were the best sharpshooter in the business. If you made a call, you could be back in Team 7 in a heartbeat."

Roy plucked another napkin to begin wiping away the sauces on his fingers as he gave a sly smile. "I did my time. Followed orders, had some fun. But you know... I never really saw this country. Traveled around it for competitions, but was never allowed to actually see anything. I've never been to the Alamo, or the Empire State Building. And neither was my dad."

That last word hung in the air for a moment. Despite the distance from his death, that fact still stung Roy. As for Jason, it made him stop in his tracks and rethink what exactly he was asking his former coworker to do for him. And as the two men sat in silence, another sound from outside the bar cut through the awkward silence.

The two men watched the scene unfolding outside. There, a few men with pick-up trucks that were proudly flying the confederate flag pulled up into the parking lot just as a black man in a t-shirt and jeans was walking towards the bar. The confederate-supporters got out of their pick-up and started surrounding the guy, blocking his path to getting into the bar. Jason's eyes narrowed as he watched one of the large men start shoving the victim of their hate.

Jason turned his gaze back to Roy, who was watching his dinner companion with concern.

"I need to use the bathroom."

"Don't."

"Don't what? I need to take a piss."

Roy simply shook his head as Jason stood up from the small two-person table and made his way towards the back of the restaurant. He went into the back of the bar, finding the small closet that was marked as the men's restroom. As soon as he entered and locked the door, Jason looked up towards the ceiling for window near the top of the bathroom. He went to try and lift open the very wide and simple window, only to find it to be a bit stuck. The former spy sighed as he reached into his pants pocket and pulled out a small utility knife. He flicked it open and ran it along the bottom of the window, removing a layer of grime and filth that was keeping the window a bit stuck down. With another attempt, the window was able to swing out. Jason then sighed and quickly jumped up into the air, using his momentum and strength to kick from one wall to the other and then up towards the window sill. He slid himself out from the window and landed behind the bar.

As Jason circled around the side of the bar, he could hear the situation had escalated. He could hear a cry for help as there was grunting and the sound of kicking and groaning. So Jason rushed around the side of the building, his fists clenched and at the ready. As he rounded the corner, about five men were gathered around their victim. They were kicking him in the head, chest, back, and legs. One of them, the one stomping down on the guy's legs trying to break them, shouted out, "Get back on to your ghetto now, boy! This place ain't for your kind."

Jason could feel the rage boiling inside him as he began rushing forward around the corner of the bar. With each kick and hit, he remembered the sensations coursing through his chest, his arms, and his skull. He almost thought the painful sensation in his hand was just a sensory memory until Jason was brought back to reality at the sound of a different voice yelping in pain. One of the racists was clutching the side of his ear as he fell down to the ground over the bloody mess of his victim, and was trying to scramble back onto his feet as his compatriots stared in shock.

The next moments were a blur of adrenaline and pure instinct. When one came in on his right with a right hook, Jason stepped back and provided a small redirecting shove to have the man clock one of his friends in the face. Another came forward trying to tackle the former spy to the ground, but Jason simply stepped to the side and provided a quick kick to the man's knee. The sound of the crunch was satisfying as the Team 7 operator decided to go on the attack in delivering a quick strike to the man he had first attacked in the neck by the time he got to his feet, leaving him choking for air.

While caught up in the chaos of the hand to hand combat, Jason was surprised and petrified with fear as he saw the two other assailants has run back to their trucks and were loading up their shotguns with appropriate shells. He had only a moment to duck back behind another car in the parking lot before the shotguns began firing off in his directions, followed by whooping and hollering. That is, until Jason heard something he wasn't expecting. He heard screams of pain coming from where the two men were firing. As Jason peered around the hood, he saw that the men had been struck by arrows in their shoulders. It didn't take long for Jason to put two and two together, especially when his marksman friend stepped out from around the other corner of the bar holding his bow with an arrow nocked and drawn. Roy turned his gaze towards Jason for a moment and nodded for him to make his way over. The vigilante did so, and began running towards the archer. Without so much as a word, Jason and Roy fled to a beaten up red van and got in. The latter threw van into drive and spun out onto the empty evening road, taking off from the scene of their crime.

Without sharing a single word, the two men knew what they had just done. And they knew that it wouldn't take long before the police were called and the authorities were looking for them.

As far as they were concerned, Jason Todd and Roy Harper were now Outlaws.

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WIP

[Mixtape Ghost N]

... Did that guy ever make Stacey X?

[Sep]

... Did that guy ever make Stacey X?

@The Ghost Note

Nah he didn't get enough likes. He's doing some kind of sensible Private Investigator type. Ugh. So disgusting.

A lot of nice sheets I enjoyed reading here. Good to see some somewhat familiar concepts, while also some fresh takes and lots of cool ideas.

[Lord Wraith]

Players can compete for characters if an application for your desired character is posted ahead of yours and has not yet been accepted. To compete for a character, you have a twenty-four-hour window to state your intent to compete. The GM Team will then judge the two competing applications.

@Master Bruce

Maybe I'm misreading this, but does this mean you can simply just post in the thread within twenty-four hours of an application being posted that you'd also like to apply for the same character without providing a completed sheet? And if so, what is the allotted window for actually submitting the completed sheet?

[Master Bruce]

Maybe I'm misreading this, but does this mean you can simply just post in the thread within twenty-four hours of an application being posted that you'd also like to apply for the same character without providing a completed sheet? And if so, what is the allotted window for actually submitting the completed sheet?

@Lord Wraith

Within the same 24-hour period as the original application's posting. There's no time extension. You can post your intent and be considered in the running by us, but you still need to write an app within the same time window. Otherwise, the original applicant gets the character, provided they meet the criteria for approval.

I'd also like to add an addendum for uncompleted apps, which includes my own, that the 24-hour contest period starts after the application is finished. So the last edit made with a complete sample is when that window begins.

[IceHeart]

To think no one put up a link in the old thread to this one or the new interest thread! I am truly disgusted with you all!

Slight annoyance aside, am thinking about competing for Wonder Woman this time around and then see if there is a Marvel character that catches my fancy.

[Lord Wraith]

To think no one put up a link in the old thread to this one or the new interest thread! I am truly disgusted with you all!

Slight annoyance aside, am thinking about competing for Wonder Woman this time around and then see if there is a Marvel character that catches my fancy.

@IceHeart

Why does the angry fist look like a taco?

[IceHeart]

Why does the angry fist look like a taco?

@Lord Wraith

So it at least tastes good when you have to eat it.

[Lord Wraith]

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So it at least tastes good when you have to eat it.

@IceHeart

Hey don't look at me, I haven't GM'd this game nor the last one :P

[Master Bruce]

With the 24 hour window having remained uncontested for the following characters, the players for...

^{From Gotham, with Love}
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@Lord Wraith

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@Bounce

C H A R A C T E R C O N C E P T P R O P O S A L

SARGE STEEL

@Byrd Man

Are henceforth...

[Mixtape Ghost N]

Nah he didn't get enough likes. He's doing some kind of sensible Private Investigator type. Ugh. So disgusting.

@Sep

I mean technically he didn't give a time limit for when he had to get those likes soo....