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Since we both posted about that movie in this thread. I'll assume you're in on the gag, and already realize that multiple movies had used the multiverse shtick this year.
Damn I knew I should've said Beavis and Butthead Do the Universe. Foiled by my own pretentiousness
To avoid arguing against the same fallacious 'argumentum ad populum' that I already know won't stay consistent. (Since no one universally believes "well this is popular, well this is profitable, so it can't be criticized/poor in quality" once its something *you* don't like.)
I wouldn't claim all studios are the same. But some don't even seem to care about making money, nor critical and audience reception. (And not only those "we'll get a tax break, if we fail" kind of movies/scam projects.)
Though Illumination Entertainment's goal is obvious from the movies they make. And the reception of their movies (looking at places like IMBD) is on a downward trend. So since it's their studio making the hypothetical movie we were discussing. I want to know if you think they'd actually make a good Legend Of Zelda adaption? Or is the argument that they'd make a profitable movie?
I'm gonna let you in on a little secret: I've never even fuckin' seen an Illumination movie, I just know of them because Minions are unfortunately a thing and Minions 2 was a meme but also a profitable one. That said, would they be my first choice? No, but my first choice would likely be a 2D animation studio because I prefer it, or at least something more visually creative like Into the Spiderverse. Illumination movies are generally
safe which is fine if a little uninspired and it makes sense why a company as notoriously protective of its IP would go with them.
I can't make a qualitative statement on Illumination movies but I don't see why they couldn't make a good Legend of Zelda adaptation because as a studio they clearly have talented animators. I think the Mario movie will be
fine and I have no reason to think their hypothetical Zelda movie would be anything less than that. Whether or not that translates to good is up to the individual. It is undeniable they'd make a profitable one and something tells me that that was what motivated Nintendo to work with them on Mario.
So yes I think they could make a good Zelda adaptation but I would prefer any other studio. I just like to give things a fair shake even if I acknowledge that some decisions from studios are made with not the best intentions for quality.
It's almost cliché to point out that Hollywood has no original ideas, and only continues to abuse the same trends. So yeah, I'm not exactly alone in feeling burnt out.
But, I'm human too. John Wick and Spiderverse still have my interest as well. I'm just not expecting much out of them.
And aside from a few long-standing creatives like Christopher Nolan creating Oppenheimer, with a star-studded cast. I don't think I've even heard of most of those movies. (And I'd wager the same is true for most people in general.) Since its seems more and more movies come out with little fanfare. Maybe because fewer people are watching online ads?
It's because, and this is surely going to add to the cynicism, with more and more studios being owned by bigger companies, they will spend assloads of money to make sure that tentpole and franchise pictures get engagement. Social media clicks, trailer views, ads during sporting events. Ant-Man is out in like four weeks and like two weeks after it comes out the machine will turn to Guardians of the Galaxy 3. It's less that movies come out with little fanfare and more that studios will bet on a sure thing. Horror movies cost less (generally) to make and so can spend more on advertising. This is why most times when people see the Best Picture nominees it's like "I have heard of two of these movies what the fuck?".
The deeper problem is that franchise movies will box out smaller movies, especially if you live in a smaller town. It is not uncommon for a movie theater to have like nothing but Marvel movies all day and then like three screenings of something else at like 10 pm. And with the rise of streaming services, studios are also trying their hand at 'limited release then immediately to streaming' but that's only serving to make customers not see the movies period because to most normal people 'streaming service' starts with Netflix and stops with maybe Amazon Prime.
I love movies I just kinda hate the system that produces them. But I'm fortunate enough to live in an area where I can see the big dumb blockbusters on a big dumb screen and still have a theater where they show the quality shit that makes me remember why I studied the fucking things in the first place.
All I'm saying, as an admitted cynic, while I'd imagine the quantity has only increased for movies and shows alike. (And perhaps it's not unique for Hollywood that there's more bad products, than good ones.) The decreasing tolerance for (and ability to engage with) basic criticism, is at an all time low on the internet. (But this is more obnoxious in the gaming space. So I'll leave it at that.)
Believe me I've been the film cynic. But I also got real tired and exhausted with the poor state of film criticism/analysis and media literacy on the internet and social media that I basically turned into a debate lord over fuckin films for a while (and still kinda do but believe me I used to be worse) because I care a lot that it pained me to have people start trying to objectively state when movies were bad or good or shit like that.
And like I don't care if people don't like a movie (even if sometimes I get aggro but hey who doesn't defend the things they love...other than sane people) but I also want to stress to people that it's not all bad. There are good movies out there!
Point being, I'm sure you would not be the only one using The Minions Movie of all things to defend the idea of another video game movie adaption being produced. But for me, that only adds on to this feeling.
I think video game adaptations in general are kinda dumb even if I liked those Sonic movies especially because way too many western games are still chasing this weird 'video games as cinematic experience' high where like obviously the first episode of The Last of Us will be well received, the game was basically 50 percent watching it anyway!
