[OOC] Nocturnal Memoirs: An Urban-Fantasy Mafia Epic

[Little Bird]

I just want to write, to RP, to collaborate, and to make a story happen. I don't want to get overly aggressive or competitive about it.

I'm not sure how I'm supposed to take 3-4 people targeting me IC.

[Estylwen]

You take it one fight at a time. Nocturnal is PvP-focused. It's just like fighting the entity in GirlieGoBoom's role-play, and it's just like you're fighting me. You're good at fighting, and I think you can manage this.

[Little Bird]

You take it one fight at a time. Nocturnal is PvP-focused. It's just like fighting the entity in GirlieGoBoom's role-play, and it's just like you're fighting me. You're good at fighting, and I think you can manage this.

@Estylwen

The entity was designed to be defeated as part of the story progression. PvP against players that are actually trying to beat you, with no thought for cooperation is a different business. You've encouraged collaboration, so I'm seeking collaboration on this. Predeteriming combat events is a valid collaborative practice.

If you want this to be pure PvP, then why not have it moved to the Arena?

[Estylwen]

Ah, I see.

Because Nocturnal isn't pure PvP, it's roleplay as well, and sabotage and kidnapping and everything else.

[The Savant]

What I'm mainly hearing out of this conversation from the lovely GMs side is that no matter what you do. You have consequences. There can be light to severe consequences no matter what. Yet, she is saying she's giving people a safety net by not allowing them to get kicked out of the ringer if all he'll does break lose.

Everyone has to be careful about what they are doing. Though she'll make sure anyone can go recover in an unclaimed territory if need be.

This is a roleplay that is competitive. It's not pure arena but it has PVP qualities which is why it's a great attraction. There has been way more roleplay than PVP scenarios for the most part... Being upset with what ifs and the inevitable of this roleplay is only going to dampen the mood.

Anyone can take out anyone. I have 3 different characters, INCLUDING yours little bird up in asterions business. You think he's gonna take it lightly at all if he catches that little spy of Glyde's up in his skyscraper? You have to be out of your mind with a thought like that. That's gonna he consequences. It all depends on what happens but actions have consequences and whatever asterion decides, if he finds that spy, all depends on everything else and he's currently being put in a horrible mood.

[Yankee]

If it makes you feel better Little Bird, on the opening post there is even this note:

"The battle between the players continues until one side surrenders."

If you don't want to give up territory, simply don't surrender. Of course there may be penalties after the fact, but as far as how I'm interpreting the "rules" you don't have to worry about suddenly losing ground if you don't want to/don't think it fits the story. But as mentioned before, suddenly finding themselves under attack is a good way to develop the RP and the group's relationship to the story at large. Will they deal with themselves and remain isolated? Reach out to local PD for assistance? Cut a deal with mafia groups to force the Order to retreat? It's a good way to flesh out how your character will react to the situation.

And yeah, like Savant mentioned many characters are already being targeted by others. Invading territory was going to happen regardless.

[Little Bird]

If it makes you feel better Little Bird, on the opening post there is even this note:

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If you don't want to give up territory, simply don't surrender. Of course there may be penalties after the fact, but as far as how I'm interpreting the "rules" you don't have to worry about suddenly losing ground if you don't want to/don't think it fits the story. But as mentioned before, suddenly finding themselves under attack is a good way to develop the RP and the group's relationship to the story at large. Will they deal with themselves and remain isolated? Reach out to local PD for assistance? Cut a deal with mafia groups to force the Order to retreat? It's a good way to flesh out how your character will react to the situation.

And yeah, like Savant mentioned many characters are already being targeted by others. Invading territory was going to happen regardless.

@Yankee

If not for the underlying board game element declaring that I either defend or lose territory I'd honestly be content to ignore the Order and let them operate there. Sharing is caring. Plus 3 poor districts can't keep up in direct conflict with others, so I'd prefer to play as passively as I can until I'm built up where I am or have the resources to expand. A less aggressive play style in the short term behooves me.

I'm also inclined to let the conquest and resource management aspects takeva back seat in favor of developing the narrative and immersing into the characters and setting.

[The Savant]

For someone playing so passively... it's definitely and so passive to be sneaking right into a mafia leaders den. Also, dude, you keep complaining about absolutely everything if it doesn't look to be going exactly the way you want. You have complained about multiple things at this point, trying to get people to bend to your will, and you keep making contradictory statements. I'm sorry but it's quite annoying. I've been trying to hold my tongue about it but you just did it again.

Complain. Complain. Complain. But your characters are doing exactly what you are complaining about that others are saying they might possibly do to you.

You never once said "Hey Sav, I am going to have someone sneak into your base. What does your skyscraper layout look like? How do you want this to go man? What is the outcome we both want to get to this," you just did it though you are demanding that you have a decision on outcomes because it's your characters and your territory. Hypocritical and childish.

And I don't care if this gets me in trouble with everyone else and upsets you. I am okay with those consequences.

[Estylwen]

@Little Bird Nothing is going to change the fact that Merryland is being invaded, and that it's likely 93rd Street will also be invaded.

Here are your options:

1) Defend your territory like everyone else.

2) Leave the roleplay.

I will not be discussing this further with you. We have been very patient the past few days, but enough is enough. Any attempts to continue talking about this, and I will have you removed myself.

[Little Bird]

For someone playing so passively... it's definitely and so passive to be sneaking right into a mafia leaders den. Also, dude, you keep complaining about absolutely everything if it doesn't look to be going exactly the way you want. You have complained about multiple things at this point, trying to get people to bend to your will, and you keep making contradictory statements. I'm sorry but it's quite annoying. I've been trying to hold my tongue about it but you just did it again.

Complain. Complain. Complain. But your characters are doing exactly what you are complaining about that others are saying they might possibly do to you.

You never once said "Hey Sav, I am going to have someone sneak into your base. What does your skyscraper layout look like? How do you want this to go man? What is the outcome we both want to get to this," you just did it though you are demanding that you have a decision on outcomes because it's your characters and your territory. Hypocritical and childish.

And I don't care if this gets me in trouble with everyone else and upsets you. I am okay with those consequences.

@The Savant

Sylvia is on the street. Not in the tower. When/If the skirmish enters the tower I'm pulling her out of Nickel; sneaking into the tower would be a point of no return without question, especially given the circumstance. If she did go in I'd have her do so openly and align with Krish, partly because a rogue party throwing bombs around boads ill for everyone, and partly because it *might* make dealings with Asterion less complicated if she stepped in to help. If the latter is serviceable to you I can go that route. Otherwise I'm leaving that situation be and getting an NPC back to Yellow Brick while Glyde deals with things in Merryland.

Hailey has become of more interest to her at this point than her original goal, which was go in and get a feel for Asterion's intent. I was looking to get a valid reason for Glyde to know of Asterion's interest in 93rd street.

I have another NPC on a diplomatic venture to hopefully head off any future tensions with Iron Rose.

A third was sent to find insight into the Order, although that one getting brought back because someone has to let Glyde know that Merryland is about to get a lot less Merry.

In terms of seizing territory, if the situation were reversed, I'd be open to the idea of throwing an early-game battle. Failing to take a territory is less skin off my back than someone potentially losing ground. Seeing everyone fully realize their board is more interesting to me; it's more exciting that way.

[Qia]

I have given you as much of an advantage as possible, Little Bird. You are welcome to sacrifice your Personnel and subvert the attack.

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Speaking of which, @LanaStorm and @Qia can collab or do a little post-by-post back and forth regarding the spies now in Highfair. :>

And ERode and Little Bird can coordinate on how they want to handle the invasion into Merryland.

@Estylwen

uhh *looks around awkwardly* just to keep you updated, I intend on starting this collab with Lana today :). Also for the sake of trying to keep Bella in this round of posts, I'll try to see who I need to immediately respond to/ if I can.

[ERode]

Could always start shit in Grey Square while you're brewing collabs for this round. Show that catboi not to get too eager to get pricked. ;3

[Yankee]

Collab with evie posted, along with some extra with Adel. Basically setting the stage to be able to have all the info ;)
And next round will probably be doing more serious infiltration/stuff. We'll see.

Oh, and introducing some NPCs that I'm still working on the sheets for, if that's alright.

[ERode]

Unleash the spies!

[evierose]

I'm adding more NPCs cuz Poppy's team will be making many moves soon...

I was debating on this rat whisperer idea because I didn't want to be so on the nose with their gyfts, but the universe has spoken and now I have the Ratcatcher. (or would it be funnier to go Ratatouille

results from random super power generator

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Anyway, two NPCs coming right up

Talia King

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Talia King

18 | Female | The Rat Whisperer/Omakase

Description:

Talia's father was a scientist who had worked for a big mafia. He often kept rats around for animal testing, and so Talia made quick friends with these incredible rodents when she couldn't with her fellow humans. Talia was too young to understand what her father was working on, but she knew it had gotten him (and her mother) killed. Poppy took her in after that. Despite her initial hesitancies, Omakase turned out to be different from the mafia her dad worked for, so she willingly joined their ranks now that she was old enough.

Gyft: Rat Telepathy

Can communicate basic meanings with any rats in sight. She can also remote control her "special little rat" at the moment, meaning, she can tap into the rat's sensory systems (vision, hearing, smell) as well as to control the rat's movement. While remote-controlling the rat, her own senses will be shut off, but she can still speak and move (at her own risk). The rat cannot do anything outside what it normally can, and its own instincts may triumph over Talia's under great temptation or distress.

Damien Hurst

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Damien Hurst

28 | Male | The Handy Man/Omakase

Description:

Damien is one of the original members of Omakase from its petty crime days. Like most of the children in the pack, he had to earn a living for himself early in his life. He was lucky to have found a mentor in an old mechanic. He was a quick learner and was good with his hands, so he didn't have it as hard as some of the other kids, but his abusive alcoholic dad meant he was always in need of more money. That was when he joined Poppy's little crew and was well-rewarded for his handy talents. His dad is no longer around, but his desire for money remained.

Gyft: Handy Man

His hands can become any common tool (e.g. screwdriver, drill, wrench, etc.) at will. The tip/size of the tool can be as small as a needle or as big as his hand. The tool cannot detach from his hand and works the same way as if he was holding it (except maybe with a bit different maneuverability). The tools will have the physical endurance of good quality metal, but can break if used incorrectly, which would result in Damien breaking a number of fingers depending on the tool.

[Little Bird]

@Little Bird Nothing is going to change the fact that Merryland is being invaded, and that it's likely 93rd Street will also be invaded.

Here are your options:

1) Defend your territory like everyone else.

2) Leave the roleplay.

I will not be discussing this further with you. We have been very patient the past few days, but enough is enough. Any attempts to continue talking about this, and I will have you removed myself.

@Estylwen

Barring an opportunity to negotiate over 93rd w/ out a fight, I'm probably best off dropping.

I thought I'd be up for it, but I doubt my headspace can handle the competitive edge on this scale. Not in the long term.

[SporkoBug]

I'm adding more NPCs cuz Poppy's team will be making many moves soon...

I was debating on this rat whisperer idea because I didn't want to be so on the nose with their gyfts, but the universe has spoken and now I have the Ratcatcher. (or would it be funnier to go Ratatouille

results from random super power generator

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Anyway, two NPCs coming right up

Talia King

Hider

Talia King

18 | Female | The Rat Whisperer/Omakase

Description:

Talia's father was a scientist who had worked for a big mafia. He often kept rats around for animal testing, and so Talia made quick friends with these incredible rodents when she couldn't with her fellow humans. Talia was too young to understand what her father was working on, but she knew it had gotten him (and her mother) killed. Poppy took her in after that. Despite her initial hesitancies, Omakase turned out to be different from the mafia her dad worked for, so she willingly joined their ranks now that she was old enough.

Gyft: Rat Telepathy

Can communicate basic meanings with any rats in sight. She can also remote control her "special little rat" at the moment, meaning, she can tap into the rat's sensory systems (vision, hearing, smell) as well as to control the rat's movement. While remote-controlling the rat, her own senses will be shut off, but she can still speak and move (at her own risk). The rat cannot do anything outside what it normally can, and its own instincts may triumph over Talia's under great temptation or distress.

Damien Hurst

Hider

Damien Hurst

28 | Male | The Handy Man/Omakase

Description:

Damien is one of the original members of Omakase from its petty crime days. Like most of the children in the pack, he had to earn a living for himself early in his life. He was lucky to have found a mentor in an old mechanic. He was a quick learner and was good with his hands, so he didn't have it as hard as some of the other kids, but his abusive alcoholic dad meant he was always in need of more money. That was when he joined Poppy's little crew and was well-rewarded for his handy talents. His dad is no longer around, but his desire for money remained.

Gyft: Handy Man

His hands can become any common tool (e.g. screwdriver, drill, wrench, etc.) at will. The tip/size of the tool can be as small as a needle or as big as his hand. The tool cannot detach from his hand and works the same way as if he was holding it (except maybe with a bit different maneuverability). The tools will have the physical endurance of good quality metal, but can break if used incorrectly, which would result in Damien breaking a number of fingers depending on the tool.

@evierose

Ooh can share link for random super power generator maybe?

[Estylwen]

@Little Bird I'm going to go ahead limb and say 93rd Street won't be negotiated.

It's okay. Good luck with your endeavors, Little Bird.

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@Yankee I forsee at least two, maybe three scenes/collabs with your spies. I'll add them in my post. Looking forward to your sheets!

@evierose The NPC's look great, approved

@Qia Sounds good regarding the collab with Lana, I can't wait to see it. :>

[Little Bird]

@Little Bird I'm going to go ahead limb and say 93rd Street won't be negotiated.

It's okay. Good luck with your endeavors, Little Bird.

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@Yankee I forsee at least two, maybe three scenes/collabs with your spies. I'll add them in my post. Looking forward to your sheets!

@evierose The NPC's look great, approved

@Qia Sounds good regarding the collab with Lana, I can't wait to see it. :>

@Estylwen

If that's so, then I request you simply play it as though I were never here. At least want the dignity of wiping myself from the map on my own terms.

[Yankee]

@Little Bird Sorry to see you go, I thought the military angle was a very cool one, but I think its a bit hard now to pretend that Del Guarde was never around. It would alter a large portion of what has already been written by myself, ERode, and others.