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> That'll bring your total number of characters up to ten, Rokku. Why not just stick with one or two? Especially considering how all your characters just _scream_ "I'm bored and want to directly rip something else off without much room for personal input", in this case Danny Phantom. Rokku is an otaku character, he's a mash of a lot of things. Sound is my Kingdom Hearts OC. Steve is, well, a player in Minecraft. Each of my characters, though they may be from something specific, are OCs that, except for Anomaly, I made. Their appearance may be a mash-up of characters from that and the powers may be similar but they are always original in personality and abilities. If I were to play Danny Phantom, I would be playing Danny, not an OC, not my own take on the character, the character from the show, only because he's awesome and my OC for that world is still WIP.
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I find some reasonable discussion entertaining at times. Not to mention openly discussing fascets of the game such as how fights are handled or the overall "mechanics" of the "setting" can lead to a better experience overall. We've talked about the setting and the stuff you guys have been dragging along for however many years before already. In fact, some other players and I were discussing the game and wrote up a list of things we feel could be improved upon. ------- First Kalamadea's post speed, or lack of thereof. We make no judgement over this because everyone has a life of their own and it can be complicated to keep roleplays going smooth when responsibilities come a-knockin, but he averages one IC post every 24 hours, if we're lucky. You have to admit this is rather slow. It makes progress stilted, as it means that any time any player does something that requires GM input such as interacting with specific NPCs they need to wait a fair amount of time for a response, after which they'll post one of their own and it's back to waiting. We all agree that he probably shouldn't be using workplace computers to roleplay, however. That he can only post within a short timespan, with the pressure of doing so at his workplace to boot, just lessens post quality and leads to things such as completely missing a player's post over the rush of just getting something IC out. This could be alleviated if the co-gm actually performed GM duties, that's you grandsword, but you seem entirely focused on playing your own characters and nothing else. Which is totally fine and understandable, but still makes your co-gm position rather pointless. We feel that someone who'll actually take over the reins of the game when Kalamadea isn't available would work better for the current situation. Next is the matter of the fights. The "challenge" provided during the Ganondorf and Volvagia fights has been purely artificial. There's no real challenge, the PCs are all tremendously powerful and the fights are basically turning into competitive no-selling, that is, ignoring or otherwise nullifying or minimizing attacks and their effects unless someone takes over and powergames or instahits. A challenging bossfight for a game like this would be puzzle bossfights that go beyond "use given Sword of Boss Killing on Boss", fights that force the players to step outside their massive powerlevels and render their absurd combat abilities less prominent not by virtue of taking them away or actively trivializing them until a post quota is met, but by making them not part of the fight at all. On the matter of instahitting, and this is a personal note from Zero Hex that was not discussed with others, I have resorted to it entirely because it seems like the only way to actually get things done. If I type about how my character could potentially do this or that, it feels as though I am only leaving myself entirely open to being nulled and ignored at every turn in this roleplay, in an unfun way. If we all agreed to not rely on autohitting and actually go along with others and not assume we can dodge and counter everything that isn't automatically declared successful, well, that'd be wonderful. Apologies to grandsword for the instahit headlock, but again, it seems as though such is the way of this roleplay. Beyond the matter of artificial difficulty, the no-sells themselves aren't necessarily a problem. After all, without a proper system to quantify abilities, freeform fights are nothing but competitive bullshitting, it's kind of fine as long as the competitive bullshitting is fun to read, showy and cool and imaginative, creative writing in short. The problem is that the no-sells have been, frankly, rather boring and dull. We feel as though this ties over to Kalamadea's problem of having to post within a short time limit and under pressure of doing so from work. Ganondorf simply took the attacks and then put himself back together like a claymation man with no real drama or entertainment to it, barely displaying any sort of personality whatsoever. He could've been parrying things with just a hilt or making a blade of pure fuck-you magics, if the hilt was cut off he could've controlled the blade with his mind alone, his severed hand could've become a separate enemy that grabbed another weapon and attacked Bee from behind or mutated into something monstrous while Ganondorf creates a magic hand construct, he could've used his magics for more than angry tantrum blasts that pointlessly damage his own holdings, he could've powered himself up without entering giant pig man mode and fought with his empty hands. As it is, the fight lacks showmanship with Bee doing the best he can to keep it entertaining while fighting an enemy that reconstructs itself like a videogame training dummy and barely has more of a personality than one. Compounding this problem is how the party hasn't been split enough. The powerlevel in this roleplay is quite high, honestly if all of the PCs present at Ganondorf's had taken part in the fight from the get-go they would've either stomped him so hard he would've come out on the other end of the world or Kalamadea would've had to resort to maximum, ridiculous levels of no-selling, not to mention how clusterfucky it gets when all players are trying to smack the one guy alone. At the very least, we feel that structuring a fight so it has clear "stages" where each character is obviously meant to do their thing is a must, and perhaps that is the plan, but considering the slow posting speed it feels as though Bee's sword duel has dragged on for forever despite not much actually happening in the fight. Something like this still reduces everyone else to commentators unlike actually giving them stuff to do, so it's not optimal, mind, far better to create situations for every character. Bring out new enemies to occupy the people not engaged in the one on one duel, give them something to do if it's clear they're letting the one guy roll with the swordfight. So, there you go. A perhaps overly long compilation of kinks we feel could be easily ironed out, with suggestions on how to do so. The key here is effort. We're not saying that Kalamadea isn't putting effort into the roleplay, but if his personal situation leaves him unable to engage in longer, more time-consuming posts needed to create these varied situations, then perhaps it might be best for a co-gm to do so rather than trudge along as we are now.
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i am having chaos pull something huge to force ganon to go piggy smalls. If kal does not opt for the trans and full on, no limit brawl it'd cause, I will post it as co GM. Before hand, I merely posted my chars, hoping to keep things moving via giving something people could at least build off of until kal could work up a plot mover. You and Bee, amongst others have faithfully used such posts to ergo keep events going. And I thank you.
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Has the next world been decided? I have ideas for a world I could run for a while to help Kalama get a breather.
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It was lord of the rings, I believe.
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Middle Earth is the first real universe, since we do need complete changeability for stuff like that. Here, there's still that slight limit to what the game provided, I simply made the game more organic and more able to respond to our presence. Next internet world has yet to be decided. Personally, I'd like to correct Other M's story by having a properly characterized Samus in the game after we all kill whiny teenager Samus, but that can wait for when I get an actual phone and piece together a post throughout the entire shift. Zero, I appreciate that, thanks. I am working very hard to make an enjoyable roleplay, but, as you also noted, having a full-time job does make it rather difficult, so I really need you to start pulling a bit more weight, Grand. I don't mean to say you haven't been helpful in the past, but lately it does seem you've been more focused on your characters. I most likely will have Ganondorf moving on to a new stage soon with the Master Sword in play now. I'm thinking Ajax could use a spotlight here, so I'll be going with your idea of specific stages where each character has a moment where they're at the greatest advantage. I'll also be working to give Ganondorf more personality here, and I do have a lot of time today due to being off tonight, so I should have a more substantial post up today. I do agree that, in hindsight, the whole "piecing together" thing was dumb, but it's too late to reverse that specific instance. I will, instead, be looking for other methods of continuing the fight.
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So I've permission to kill Chaos right? I mean, angering the infinitely strong guy currently holding your head hostage by trying to kill him and everyone else in the area? Ajax could take it with some discomfort but he's gonna be extra pissed anyway, you've gotten rid of every IC reason why Ajax isn't actually hurting your character grandsword. Between that and "fuck magic users", he's going to squeeze as hard as he can and make [Chaos' head do something like this](http://i.imgur.com/9veQx26.gif). And I'm sorry, but this isn't powergaming, this isn't instahitting, it's wholly a consequence of character actions, done entirely in-character for in-character reasons and well within the scope of Ajax's powers to kill Chaos like this. It's actually fairly admirable you stuck to your character even when it'd lead to his violent death.
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By the way, if anyone is feeling like this is going too slow, you guys are all free to move on. I'll post the strategy for a boss here and then you guys can take over when I'm unable to keep going.
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I'll take over for Ganondorf, if no one has any objections. I've been looking to get into the mood for an antagonist.
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I can also take over for Ganon, since I was offering to co-GM anyways.
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Go for it man. Aside: I expect at least one Warlock Punch. Quick Edit: Though Earnest, seems like it'd be better if Bee took over Ganon, considering he's the main dude against him right now.
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I can see that. I'll accede my attempt to be Ganondorf, then.
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> "Pity. Now, I will have to shred my own meat from it's bones." > An almost primordial grin Okay I've been puzzling over this for a bit and what are these phrases even supposed to mean? Also isn't chains guy supposed to be an antagonist? Shouldn't he be, you know, attacking us instead of Ganondorf?
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I'd expect him to try, but it wouldn't be the first time someone tried to kill chaos.
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> > "Pity. Now, I will have to shred my own meat from it's bones." > > > An almost primordial grin > > Okay I've been puzzling over this for a bit and what are these phrases even supposed to mean? > > Also isn't chains guy supposed to be an antagonist? Shouldn't he be, you know, attacking us instead of Ganondorf? He's a cannibalistic abomination locked in humanoid form. Such phrase from him refers to distain for having to front the effort to kill his preferred prey himself. The fact that he's not getting figured out Is part of the intent. As for his targeting, he's not dumb. He'd rather target the outnumbered prospect, than try his luck on assaulting a whole group.
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> I'd expect him to try, but it wouldn't be the first time someone tried to kill chaos. Considering how Ajax's muscles are metaphysical enough to put Chaos in a headlock and _keep him there_, I'm sure splattering him like a pomegranate would be child's play.
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> Middle Earth is the first real universe, since we do need complete changeability for stuff like that. Here, there's still that slight limit to what the game provided, I simply made the game more organic and more able to respond to our presence. Next internet world has yet to be decided. Personally, I'd like to correct Other M's story by having a properly characterized Samus in the game after we all kill whiny teenager Samus, but that can wait for when I get an actual phone and piece together a post throughout the entire shift. Well, then, after Middle Earth, we can go to The World That Never Was. As long as everyone has some sort of magic (ie. spells, enchanted weapons, etc.) then they can fight the Heartless. Only other things that'd work would be bare fists/feet. And with Sonus there he can help guide you through it quickly. Also, I did realize I have yet to specify Sonus's shotlocks so I'll do that now. Edit: Explained his Shotlocks and Drive Forms. Had to rename them because, after watching the video, the person left comments with their actual names and a link to the creator's deviantART page.
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Yeah, no, unless you pull some sort of hidden "oh but he can totally bring himself back because otherwise the concept of chaos would not exist in this world" bullshit of the highest magnitude, he's dead. Ajax is absurdly strong across the entire multiverse, can use his ridiculous strength against things that would normally be unaffected by physical trauma, he can null teleportation by holding on to you really hard and he's already got Chaos caught in a headlock that might as well be a hydraulic press vs an egg in this situation since Chaos has no form of enhanced durability. If you pull "oh but it was all just an illusion" then I'd have to call bullshit once more because Ajax explicitly has an ability that lets him see through illusions, it'd be blatantly ignoring my characters' abilities and if we're doing that then there's no point in even having CSes at all. Chaos could still try to shapeshift or do his Voideus magics, whatever those are, but I say there's no time for that unless you blatantly edit your post or don't give me a chance to write mine out because Chaos' head is already caught, he's currently doing his magma thingy and all Ajax has to do to crush him is flex. The only reason I have not killed your character yet is out of a general sense of courtesy and having had that whole "plz no killing without asking" rule hammered into me of late, but you win some and you lose some, and your character's actions have to led a situation where he should die. Unless you can explain to me incredibly well how he is going to escape from this without flagrantly ignoring my character's powers, pulling powers out of your ass or outright editing your latest post or not giving me a chance to properly write out my actions before having your character do something else, I'm gonna have to call bullshit and insist that Chaos is proper fucked.
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Let's figure out what's next once we actually get to Middle Earth. Also pretty sure that would be "carve" rather than "shred" and I'm fairly sure he can't be a cannibal if there's only one of his kind since cannibalism is eating your own kind and Guro is a unique entity and to add to that I don't see what's so stealthy about showing up out of nowhere with no explanation, attacking something, yelling about craving flesh, and then running downstairs to eat some mooks but semantics. And also yeah I'm with Zerohex on this one Chaos is pretty much fucked unless he does some serious, massive ass-pulling.
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There were others. He ate them. Read the cs.. And I don't disagree on chaos. I never stated he wasn't fucked. I merely said Ajax would not have been the first person to Try and kill him.
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