> Hold up, how'd I get dragged into this argument. I had my character do one action in that aformentioned battle against volvagia. That the effect was not recognized/non- effective is not my fault. What, should I have power played and said "lol firederpdragon dies, sharts a sparkling Edward Cullen making love to the plot coupon."? And as for the other one, I had chaos try to interfere, and he got headlocked by the local powerhouse. Alpha is simply waiting out till the one whom opted to one on one a boss with allies present decides he wants help. You _WERE_ the example of how not shamelessly powergaming and autohitting isn't going to work, Grandsword. The fact that the GM keeps noselling you and you aren't calling him on it _is_ the poor example. The one-sentence posts on the other hand are rather debatable. GM, I'm more offended by your shoddy debate tactics than by the issue at hand, but since nobody else seems to take issue with what you're doing I'll let it be. We'll play by your rules, GM.

Petty arguments. I'm actually glad that Kalama is beefing up the fights this much. Ocarina, while it is my all-time favorite game, wasn't noted for its difficult bosses. Actually, most games in general have predictable bosses, so to see them this beefed up is a relief to me. While I'm fairly certain Rawk's tactic won't work, I won't complain either way. You gotta remember that the Crucible Piece is wreaking havoc on the world. All this could merely be an effect of that. I think I prefer it this way. I love a good challenge.

I'll get a post up in a few hours, after work. Also, simply because the whole "only the Master Sword can even hurt Ganon/dorf" thing came from the CD-i games, apparently, that's getting retconned. I'll have nothing to do with that crap here. We'll chalk up the healing to active use of magic on Ganondorf's part, and that wounds from the Master Sword can't be healed outright like that.

in case it isn't obvious by this point, Ajax is not going to step in unless Bee asks him to or Ganondorf does something to break the duel, such as summoning servants, attacking others to see if Bee will let his guard down or becoming a giant pig man, at which point it's no longer a fight between men, just monster extermination.

I know, I was simply using Ajax as an example as to how the fight could have gone. I realize it's not within his character to step in on a duel like that. Though, your statement does give me some ideas.

Actually Kalama, the whole Master Sword thing isn't necessarily only from the CD-i games. It's just that the only other weapon shown that's able to hurt him is the Silver/Light Arrows. Other than that, Master Sword or bust, yo.

And the Biggoron's Sword, apparently. Only sword you have in the final Ganon fight, and it does something at least. I think that's why they were saying that, since the Biggoron's Sword was able to harm him, it just couldn't kill him. I dunno, maybe I'll keep it that way for lore's sake, especially since Bee's the only one really influenced by it. Chaos uses magic and I've already mentioned why Ajax isn't useless here. The games never did truly specify whether sorcery would be useless or not, and for the sake of keeping Chaos useful I'm gonna go with magic still harms Ganon/dorf. Cuban Pete, I think, is just kind of there at the moment, as are Cirno and Okuu. I want to give Pete something but I'm having difficulty figuring just what to give him. Also, Prost, that whole sequence with the Iron Knuckle actually did make me chuckle. Nice.

Well prostagma , you want a damn power play..I'm going to bring in my one reserve to do it. > > Hold up, how'd I get dragged into this argument. I had my character do one action in that aformentioned battle against volvagia. That the effect was not recognized/non- effective is not my fault. What, should I have power played and said "lol firederpdragon dies, sharts a sparkling Edward Cullen making love to the plot coupon."? And as for the other one, I had chaos try to interfere, and he got headlocked by the local powerhouse. Alpha is simply waiting out till the one whom opted to one on one a boss with allies present decides he wants help. > > You _WERE_ the example of how not shamelessly powergaming and autohitting isn't going to work, Grandsword. The fact that the GM keeps noselling you and you aren't calling him on it _is_ the poor example. The one-sentence posts on the other hand are rather debatable. > > GM, I'm more offended by your shoddy debate tactics than by the issue at hand, but since nobody else seems to take issue with what you're doing I'll let it be. We'll play by your rules, GM.

Did Kalamadea post yet?

I'm half-tempted to switch Steve to another guy. Our newest hero was just 14 when his parents built a very strange machine it was designed to view a world unseen. Let's see who gets it. And idk if I wanna switch just yet... might just add him in later.

That'll bring your total number of characters up to ten, Rokku. Why not just stick with one or two? Especially considering how all your characters just _scream_ "I'm bored and want to directly rip something else off without much room for personal input", in this case Danny Phantom.

Dunno bee. All I know is i'm certifiably pissed, and I need to vent. Thus the only reason I'm writing the kind of post I am.

> Dunno bee. All I know is i'm certifiably pissed, and I need to vent. Thus the only reason I'm writing the kind of post I am. Over what? You're yelling at Prostagma when the issue at hand is the GM's constant no-selling and lack of style. To be honest, you're acting like a pissed off teenager.

Let's make this clear, one more time grandsword. I am saying that you are the _victim_ here. I was attempting to _help you_ by pointing out that your actions were being _ignored_ by Kalamadea. I find your _refusal to powergame_ **admirable**, and I was attempting to point out that it was not fair to _you_, grandsword, that your characters actions were _ignored_ by virtue of you _not_ autohitting. The reason I said that you, grandsword, were setting a bad example was because you were _allowing Kalamadea to marginalize your character_ rather than bringing it up in the OOC. Allowing a precedent like that to come into place is unfair both to yourself and your fellow players, because autohitting is _not something players should be forced to do to be effective_. If you wish to continue feeling attacked than I would appreciate it if you would cite, clearly, where I encouraged you to powergame.

And as for bringing in another guy Greatsword (if I'm reading that right anyway), you already have three characters you've been using, and you've typically been rather terse in their actions. So I'd suggest against it.

Anyways, Kalamadea, it's true you don't post a lot. I've GM'd a fair number of games. If you need me to co-GM, it'd be no problem to handle stuff like boss fights, and I'm pretty familiar with Zelda and the like. Hell, I can take over the Ganon fight, and that'd let you focus on Volvagia.

I'm pissed mostly over something that happened regarding my classes and my financial aid. The issues on here that I came on to find occurring made me a bit tense. I do apologize if I misread things. My mind had not been clear. However, I took my dog for a walk..cleared my head in the cold CT air..(God damn, it's cold.) and am reworking my progressed post to intro him, while still not power playing.

> I'm pissed mostly over something that happened regarding my classes and my financial aid. The issues on here that I came on to find occurring made me a bit tense. I do apologize if I misread things. My mind had not been clear. However, I took my dog for a walk..cleared my head in the cold CT air..(God damn, it's cold.) and am reworking my progressed post to intro him, while still not power playing. Don't vent your offline issues onto your players. It's bad for the game.

On another note, I don't see why the arguing is needed. I don't know bout the rest of you, but I come here to unwind. I come here to have fun. Can't we do that, instead of all the arguements?

And bee. I apologize. Just issues that spilled over. It shall not reoccur.