[OOC] The Hot Headed, Heavy Hitters, Have it Out (Fury vs Kanitah, Round 2)

[LeeRoy]

Well, for us it's incredibly difficult. But sloughing through 20 lbs of dirt that's weighed down by less than 5 lbs of packed grass would be less than nothing for someone in the 10 ton class.

[LeeRoy]

Only a sloppy or amateur low-kick can be easily caught, and Fury’s was neither of those things.

@MelonHead

Except that's bullshit. Two fighters of comparable strength, speed, and skill can counter every movement that the other makes. Kanitah's shorter stature actually makes it EASIER for him to catch Fury's leg.

[MelonHead]

Regardless, in a fight between two equals, trying to catch a surprise low-kick (to the knee, not even the upper thigh) is both difficult and dangerous.

You also didn't have your character check the kick in any fashion with his leg, so only his hands are stopping the force of Fury's kick, kicks beat hands most of the time.

I also quite clearly said 'easily' because everything about your post suggested nonchalant as fuck defense.

This isn't ranked, but feel free to seek advice from any of the judges or other arena denizens, particularly anyone with fighting experience, maybe they can cast an eye on the situation.

[Skallagrim]

I don't have a dog in this fight. You're right LeeRoy a skilled fighter can counter another skilled fighter. But for what it's worth, usually you check a low kick with a kick. A kick to the thigh/hip area you try and block/catch with a single hand because you still have a hand free and can easily control your opponent if you get the foot. Sweep or a step in and solid punch/kick, or hell even a take down can be accomplished from here. But I never use both hands and leave myself without any way to retaliate.

For instance LeeRoy you could have written-

Seeing the man take his stance, closing the distance, Kanitah spread his feet apart slightly. Rising on to the balls of his feet, the smaller man turned his body slightly towards the approaching Fury. When the larger man launched his knee strike, Kanitah, being an accomplished fighter met the kick with a cross knee check, lifting the left knee presenting the harder point to meet Fury’s foot.

Or you could have done-

Seeing the man take his stance, closing the distance, Kanitah spread his feet apart slightly. Rising on the balls of his feet, the smaller man turned his body slightly towards the approaching Fury. When the larger man launched his knee strike, Kanitah, being an accomplished fighter merely shifted his stance, sliding his left leg back along the grass/rock ground. The simple move left naught but air for Fury’s attempted strike. Having switched his stance, with the right hand and leg now forward, Kanitah launched his own strike at the man known as Fury. The lead jab/thrust kick was aimed for the exposed hip of the balancing foot. Of course Fury might block, or even catch the foot, but Kanitah was not with his own tricks if that happened.

[LeeRoy]

I'll make a post tonight or tomorrow morning, just bought the full Fifth Edition of D&D and I'm reading the books.

[MelonHead]

I'll make a post tonight or tomorrow morning, just bought the full Fifth Edition of D&D and I'm reading the books.

@LeeRoy

Heh, my friends are making me read DM guide atm.

[LeeRoy]

I'm reading it cover to cover because I'm going to be hosting a campaign myself. I kind of need to memorize how it works so I don't fuck it up.

[MelonHead]

Hmm, I'm not that familiar with wrestling style moves but would lifting your knee up work? Surely it would just make it easier for Fury to swipe the other leg out from under Kanitah instead as he's reduced his stability. Hell, I'm not even sure if Kanitah could stand up on one leg against Fury slamming into him.

It doesn't matter much, but as this is unranked I want this fight to be as accurate as possible. I hate the idea of people who've done a lot of practical fighting looking at my fights and rolling their eyes.

[LeeRoy]

No, the leg raising upwards ruins his stability. Fury would still land on top of him, that's not his goal. He's trying to hurt Fury as much as possible before the grapple on the ground happens.

In effect he's kneeing Fury's shoulder to cause it pain, possibly dislocate it, and make it less effective, as well as delivering a blow to the top of his head as they're careening towards the ground. Again, to make him less effective.

However, the cost of this sort of assault is a guaranteed lower body pin. If they were in a ring, Kanitah wouldn't have considered this as it would instantly put him to the mat. But, since they're outside in what's comparable to a random street fight, it's a useful move. Because there's nobody there to start count down because he's pinned.

[MelonHead]

Okay, I can understand how attempting to knee Fury before you go to ground would be a way to get some damage in, but I don't really see how Kanitah would also find it possible to direct an attack at Fury's head while he's being slammed into the ground. The proximity is one limiting factor, Fury's energy blasts into the path of his arms is another (this served what would in a human fight been popping Kanitah's elbows up to get under his guard, though Kanitah's arm being in the air did half of this for him.)

I'm just going to make my post with how I think the grab would go down now, as this is unfamiliar ground for me as well.

[LeeRoy]

Before you do that, lemme rephrase. He's not attacking, he's blocking. His knee being raised up and intercepting the shoulder is what would be considered the attack. The effect of Darligrov would activate when Fury's shoulder and Kanitah's knee meet.

He's not lunging forward to knee at him, he's standing still and raising his knee.

Ah, must have misread the blasts part. I figured that he was using the blasts to accelerate himself.

I'll go ahead and edit out the punch to his crown.

Edit: Done.

Double Edit: Nevermind.

[MelonHead]

Damnit, you need to remember to say when those rings are coming into play because I can't remember where they are all the time. I was under the impression that it was Fury's shoulder vs your knee, in which his armour would leave him relatively unscathed, but if you're utilizing your rings then his armour would probably be shattered, as it's particularly vulnerable to blunt force.

Also, do your rings simply work off momentum of contact then? I remember reading (this was like a year ago though) that they activated by multiplying the force of Kanitah's blows, but do they in fact just multiply the damage of any contact between Kanitah and an opponent? The distinction is sort of important.

[LeeRoy]

It bathes him in a calm auburn rings of light, they wrap around his body's strike zones. The list of striking zones and the number of rings are listed as follows; head(2), shoulders(4), elbows(4), hands(4), forearms(4), knees(4), feet(4), and chest(2).

That's the list in the CS, for reference.

[LeeRoy]

Also, they work off of contact with the encircled areas of his body. If he lashes out, it's 3x. If they are struck, the equal and opposite force rule is out the window. Instead, the opposing returning force is 3x.

[MelonHead]

Wait, so the rings reflect 3x the force of anything that hits them? Because that means Fury would just bounce off, and it also makes Kanitah impervious to physical harm in all of those regions.

[LeeRoy]

I suppose instead of what I said previously, I would have to say: The Rings have to be in motion for the effect to activate. Otherwise we might get into some really weird physics questions.

[MelonHead]

It makes a lot more sense (and makes them considerably less O.P) if they simply increasing the force of Kanitah's movements by three times what they actually are. Sort of like having a warhammer attached to your limbs, the warhammer makes a fairly powerful human movement into something far more devastating by increasing the pressure of the movement and the weight of the object you're hitting something with.

If they can reflect any force against them then 1. you should have easily beaten Fury in our first fight 2. this fight has become about 5x harder for me.

[LeeRoy]

Yeah, let's keep it at what you said instead of the way I said. When I wrote up how I originally thought they work I instantly thought; Wait. That can't be right.

Though the secondary effect of the rings does come into play once we start grappling.

The secondary ability of Darligrov is attributed to its divine, as opposed to occult, nature. Anyone deemed unjust by Kanitah's perspective are burned by the rings, this burning sensation has been described as: "Dipping your hand in acid." And it is caustic enough to leave permanent scars on your body if left in place long enough.

@LeeRoy

[MelonHead]

O.K, in which case though the blow would definitely hurt more than I'd intended it isn't going to obliterate every bone in Fury's right side or anything, because Kanitah didn't really have the space for a full wound up Knee attack, but rather obstructed Fury and used his own momentum as the force of the attack.

As for the burning rings that's fine, it's worth keeping in mind that Fury is almost completely covered in armour though (which is designed to combat burning and energy based assaults, as it was updated by the Angar Ryllans)

Any damage that Fury has sustained will probably come into play if they separate and Fury has a moment to notice how badly he was injured, however it is safe to say that region of his body can be more easily hurt in the near future but it is not broken or dislocated, as he was still able to perform normal functions with it after the grapple.

[LeeRoy]

Okay, sounds entirely reasonable.