[OOC] Blood Compact: Vampire Genocide

[Legion-114]

@thewizardguy

I was only using the viral detector as an example, but HIVE already has technology that can say who is a vampire and who isn't remotely. As Wraith, who came up with the idea originally in the chat and I discussed. Adam was going to show this off to prove the validity of the plan.

As for the main base which being in the middle of a flat wasteland in a yet unspecified location in the UK, armies will find it hard to stealthily approach the base.

@BurningCold

The corridors are something like this. residentevilsac.com.br/wp-content/uplo... All directions will have a light source in the entrance mainly due to scanning and decontamination procedures.

However vampires and humans alike are welcome to have a meeting in which they will have to be injected with a small device into their body. media.liveauctiongroup.net/i/9378/1038..
Nicely donated by the Yamada Corporation.

[thewizardguy]

@Legion-114
Telling vamps apart from humans is easy. Infrared. If it doesn't give off body heat it's either a vampire or a corpse powered by a robotic endoskeleton. Either way, kill it with fire. I'm not sure what further innovation you could add to this field, as infrared already allows you to tell a vampire apart from a human at a glance.

[BurningCold]

@thewizardguy A potential workaround is possession. Someone able to possess others may control the victim to enter the Hive HQ while Victor hides in that person's shadow. Infrared would be useless in detecting Victor at this point because shadows aren't supposed to have heat signatures anyways.

[thewizardguy]

@BurningCold
Could Victor remain in someone's shadow, even if that person was teleported? Because if so, he could simply follow Chantelle or Bedi on their own teleportation trips.

[BurningCold]

@thewizardguy I never said he couldn't so unless Wraith says otherwise, yes.

[Wraithblade6]

@thewizardguy I never said he couldn't so unless Wraith says otherwise, yes.

@BurningCold

As far from physics as we have come, I think I may need to draw the line at teleporting a shadow guest alongside Bedivere or Chantelle. In fact, I don't think Chantelle can do any kind of "teleport." It doesn't say so in her bio. And as far as powers go, teleporting really isn't physically explainable or even fudgable as far as remote believeability, nor is any kind of "true" invisibility. It should therefore be banned, but I had to give it to Grey for... reasons. We fudge the rules a lot in this rp.

However, if Bedivere is somehow shapeshifting into water molecules... don't ask, and joins into one body of water only to re-shift back to vampire form using other water molecules at a new location, then ok... but during the process he technically didn't have a shadow. Victor can't hitch a ride.

As far as cutting power cables under water... well any water in space would be ice. Perhaps Bedivere could still port to ice, but could he travel far enough to reach orbital space??

[BurningCold]

@Wraithblade6 Victor gets stronger in darkness and space is literally the absence of light or some shit like that so does that make Victor and immortal space vampire god? :O

[2b3heart]

Okaaaaay... Well... You can't tell what Silver is with infrared X)

[thewizardguy]

@Wraithblade6
Oh come on. Bedi has a sword with the power to suck up light. I think the idea of restricting magic died a while ago. We're in full on dragons and fairies territory now.

Bedivere is able to instantly move between any two bodies of water, no matter how far apart. This means that he can appear anywhere on the planet instantly, provided it has water. Even hermetically sealed locations. The only way for his power to make sense is if every particle in his body transformed into a wave function of itself capable of performing an observer action on itself, using quantum tunneling to reach the location required. However even then that would require time to pass.

I was referring to the water tank. HIVE have a massive manned laser weapon in space. It must contain a water tank, unless they send up a shuttle any time someone wants a drink. Considering there would be no illumination in the water tank Bedi would be able to break the thing from the inside, cutting the power lines. This would shut down the power throughout most of the facility, and as such the lights would go out. Which would supercharge Victor.

[thewizardguy]

@2b3heart
Considering the fact that she's half-werewolf, and werewolves are living beings, that makes sense. But this would also mean that Silver needs to breathe, eat and sleep. Even if she needs it less than other living beings.

[2b3heart]

That is true

[Slendy]

Hmmm security systems...it sounds like you guys need a vampire that could ooh I don't know :D phase through solid objects.

[Wraithblade6]

Hmmm security systems...it sounds like you guys need a vampire that could ooh I don't know :D phase through solid objects.

@Slendy

That sounds handy.

[Slendy]

Maybe Victor can frag Sam along on his seriously complicated mission.

[Wraithblade6]

I need to know if Bedivere is going to zip up to the space station-laser thingy.

[The Grey Dust]

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As far from physics as we have come, I think I may need to draw the line at teleporting a shadow guest alongside Bedivere or Chantelle. In fact, I don't think Chantelle can do any kind of "teleport." It doesn't say so in her bio. And as far as powers go, teleporting really isn't physically explainable or even fudgable as far as remote believeability, nor is any kind of "true" invisibility. It should therefore be banned, but I had to give it to Grey for... reasons. We fudge the rules a lot in this rp.

However, if Bedivere is somehow shapeshifting into water molecules... don't ask, and joins into one body of water only to re-shift back to vampire form using other water molecules at a new location, then ok... but during the process he technically didn't have a shadow. Victor can't hitch a ride.

As far as cutting power cables under water... well any water in space would be ice. Perhaps Bedivere could still port to ice, but could he travel far enough to reach orbital space??

@Wraithblade6

Water in space isn't part of the earthly Hydrosphere. I'm afraid even if this is possible and we could somehow extend the metaphysics of how his water warp works into the explainable physics, it would still be restricted to earthly waters due to the lore behind his lineage. Which is why neither he, nor the Pale Lady, nor any of their children have a shot at existing in space.

As for how it works? Well technically I'd assume some level of physics above my pay grade is involved. However I'd wager some quantum mechanics can explain how to Bedivere's line, water can act as a medium for macro-level quantum tunneling. That is to say, those of his sort of vampire, one powerful enough to use this technique could induce the particles of their cellular mass tunnel through water from one surface to another surface elsewhere as if there was no matter in between either surfaces. This however cannot be done in space, as there is no conjoining matter in between the vacuum and as such would be very difficult to establish a proper quantum tunnel through nothing.

That's how I would explain his powers in a quasi-scientific way. As Wiz stated earlier. However agreed that there requires some time to pass to tunnel through the objects. At which, maybe we can account for some time dilation to shave off the actual time required.

Edit: I'll also post sometime tomorrow afternoon.

Um, I don't think if I were to stick to the lore behind the character, I would have Bedivere beam himself up into space.

[Wraithblade6]

I think we should give Wiz a chance to edit the "diabolical plan." We have learned that none of the vampires can get up there. Personally, i don't see the logic in Hive having humans manning a the laser in some kind of space station. It could totally be an unmanned thing, which would make a lot more sense.

we may however have enough vampires with appropriate abilities to get into a Hive base on earth.

[The Grey Dust]

Well, we could go along with it, but that would require Bedivere to be slightly empowered somehow. Unless we are fine with my rewriting the weaknesses and such...

[Shikaru]

Didn't abandon this, been busy. Will try to get a post up for all of my characters tonight or in the morning at the latest.

[Wraithblade6]

@Shikaru
Nice to see you again Shikaru. Come hang out on Steam during the daylight sometime.