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@Natty@Tackytaff we gotta have some kind of magic gang going on.


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I'd be up for joining the mini sub-team of magic users.

I do feel like Gabi may also grow closer to more of the non-US members of the group, due to them all being cultural outsiders to an extent.

@Tackytaff Selene and Gabi's relationship could be an interesting topic to discuss, due to them both being somewhat Wonder Woman related. How would Selene feel about Gabi taking on the Wonder Girl title, for example, despite having never met Diana herself?


I love the idea of Selene trying to learn runic magic and getting frustrated/giving up when she doesn't learn it in five minutes. She'll happily be a part of mini-magic-squad, but will probably be a bit quietly resentful that her peers are so much further along their magic training compared to her. Especially with Gabi taking the Wonder Girl title, Selene has a weird relationship with WW where she constantly seeks validation but also kind of hates her for being so controlling over Selene's life and stealing her from her family twice over.
Basically she a steamy insecure jealous mess but tries not to let it affect her relationships, especially not with team-mates. Long term I'd like to Selene and Gabi train together; as she would be very helpful in unlocking her demi-god physiology if not magic, and judging only from the character sheets it seems they'd mesh really well. We make our own demi-goddess sub-group in the magic sub group.

Looking so forward to playing with everyone! Out of curiosity how long has the team been in action? Have characters joined at different times?
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Nobody knows, even Wraith making the floorplan doesn't.

I hope you make it though Taff! You're always good to have around.

So I guess I hope I make it too


I wanted to fight you for the magic user spot but if you want to be cordial and nice about it fiiiiinnnneeeeee. Hope to play with you again!
Does anyone know the number of heroes Hillan might be aiming for?
We’ve got to combat inter-connectivity. Even if we were in our own corners in past games, we had concurrent stuff being mentioned in other posts. Little bits of lore being referenced from other players and a lot of this came with players reading each other’s stuff. In Ultimate DC’s 2013 run you had micro-events like The Joker burning money in Robinson Park, Black Adam attacking a plaza in Star City, and stuff like that so maybe providing some GM interference would work.


Not sure if this help or not? But I'll just say here I am intending to make a post where a few blocks of Gotham surrounding the Iceberg lounge with be mildly destroyed. The plan is to have that post up after the one I am (hopefully) posting this evening, likely early next week. If Gotham-based people would be interested saving people from wreckage and the such, I can give whatever details.

@Master Bruce
On the same note- while I don't think what I have planned steps on any toes, perhaps a concrete rule as to how much mayhem any individual can create could maybe inspire people to 'go big', or get more involved in large events already established?


The industrial district of Gotham had grown over the years. Rather than sprawling any further into the city it has instead eaten up the dingy divisions once used to house it's own workers. For politicians the expansion meant cleaning up bad neighborhoods, for businesses it meant more money coming into Gotham. For Pamela Isley, it meant staring at the new waste pool of Ace Chemicals that had taken the place of the row of run-down townhouses that had once been her home. She wasn't sure what she'd expected to find, but at least the fumes weren't making her ill. She kicked a loose piece of gravel into the open vat and watched it bubble as it sank.

There was nothing here for her. But still she hovered for a few moments longer. A part of her had maybe hoped that something had survived. The magnolia tree her mother had nurtured inside for years before transplanting to their small yard, or the rose and peony bushes they trimmed each year together. Pamela reached out with her arm over the pool trying to sense something, anything, that might have remained of her past deep below the earth. But there was nothing, no stirrings of life. For a sense she had possessed for such a short time, it was strange how uncomfortable its absence made her. Just as she was about to turn away, her phone vibrated in her pocket.

S.O.S. -H

The location sent to her was the other side of town. With an exasperated sigh, Pamela got into her car, the toxic waste that had taken the place of her childhood home quickly forgotten.

Helena was already in full swing - quite literally - by the time Pamela arrived. Several men had her nearly surrounded, when Pamela cracked opened the door to the Bertinelli estate cellar. It smelled of dust, wine, and aged wood.

"Took you long enough." Helena grunted, confusing the attackers close enough to hear her as she floored the man attempting to grapple her with a swift kick. At least she wasn't wearing that stupid pointy mask. Pamela hesitated before entering the room completely. What exactly did she expect her to do? As Helena ducked, countered, and leveled the thugs, Pamela took a moment to better survey the scene.

Helena was preparing herself for the next wave of thugs to pour into the dimly-lit wine cellar. Broken glass and shallow pools of wine were scattered across the floor surrounding a large hole in the wall that appeared to have been opened by explosives. Pamela realized that it wasn't just wine flowing between the cobblestone, but also blood - hopefully not Helena's. In fact, judging from the number of bodies strewn about, it seemed that Helena was in fine form.

"Did you come to help or - " A single shot interrupted Helena mid-sentence, and with a string of curses she launched herself at the attacker, grabbing the weapon and cartwheeling in one fluid motion to twist it out of his grasp, while breaking his wrist in the process " - or for a free show?" Still winded but stealing a smug glance at Pamela before the next attacker met his fate. She had them nearly pushed back to the hole they'd been streaming in from.

With a sigh and sense of dread, Pamela pushed open the door and entered. It didn't take much time for the one of the attackers to set upon her. She managed to duck the first clumsy swing but the second quickly knocked her to the ground. What the fuck had Helena been thinking, she wasn't a natural-born fighter; she wasn't even trained. She did her best to keep moving - she rolled to the left, just trying not to get hit. A nearly silent whistle passed through the air, and the man standing over her fell flat to the floor. A quick look showed Helena glaring, with her wrist-mounted crossbow aimed in Pamela's direction.

Pamela stood and brushed herself off, refusing to offer an excuse as the few remaining assailants started to retreat.

"We need to stop them." Helena directed without explanation. Pamela rolled her eyes, but followed through the destroyed wall.

The tunnel they had been ambushed from looked to be ancient; definitely not made for just this single attack. Pamela couldn't guess at what it was doing there, but could tell from the tell-tale smell ahead that they were headed straight into the Gotham sewers. Isley's Saturday had gone from standing safely over refuse to wading in it.

"I can barely see shit." Helena cursed, still managing to land an elbow in a mans back as he tried to run.

Pamela only hummed in response, and reached out with her senses. There was maybe something she could do. "Have that mask I gave you?" Without a word Helena pulled a black specialized air-filtering mask over her face.

There really was no stopping nature. Life could be found just about anywhere that wasn't glowing with toxic waste. Gotham's lax sanitation regulations with its sewers helped of course. Pamela closed her eyes and tried to tune out the echoing wet footsteps in the tunnel. Mold. Not much, but she could work with it. Within seconds it was doubled in area, and then the spores became airborne. Black mold, judging by the near instantaneous coughing and wheezing it caused. The rush of panic to escape was immediately slowed as the goons began to succumb to the mold's toxic effects. Helena didn't even have to lift a finger to bring them to the ground.

"Thanks," Helena said, barely even winded despite the mask.

Pamela shrugged "What the hell happened here?"

"One of the fucking families." There was a brief pause before Helena broke into a long string of curses and gave an impressive kick to the still body at her feet.

We may have killed these men. The thought was surprising to Pamela, but somehow that possibility wasn't horrifying. After all, she knew what she was signing herself up for when she allied herself with the mob.

"I don't understand. Haven't you spent the past month building a case against them specifically to prevent this?"

"I was hoping they weren't stupid enough to force my hand." Helena was rubbing the bare patch of skin not covered by the mask. "I reveal one of them, the others will - " She stopped, realizing that Pamela was neither particularly interested or listening.

"Who cares? When are you going to help me with Legrand?"

"Who?" Helena was picking over the bodies, but looked up to meet Pamela's icy stare. "Right, look. We can deal your ex next week. Just let me find a way to handle Inzerillo first."

Without Pamela's urging, the mold had stopped growing, and slowly settled onto the damp floor and walls of the tunnel. It was hardly safe to breathe, but wasn't enough to immediately kill it's victims. One of the bodies began to stir, grabbing the attention of both women.

It was a young man, attempting to crawl away. Miraculously avoiding the worst of Helena's attacks, he'd been brought down by the mold. Helena was on him in a heartbeat, stomping on his back and flattening him into the damp mud of the passage.

"Are we done here then?" Pamela asked, not protesting, but also not exactly wanting to witness a murder.

"Just a minute. Help me get this one out of here." With a bit of maneuvering, together they managed to drag the body into the safety of the Bertinelli cellar. Safely away from the mold, Helena peeled off her mask, sweaty hair sticking to her face. She didn't allow any time for recovery, pressing her boot on the man's chest even as he began choking and coughing on the clean air.

"Who do you belong to?"

Pamela backed herself away from the interrogation as the man began to wildly look around the room, desperately coming to terms with the company and situation he was in. When his pleading eyes landed on her, she only shook her head slowly. Not her problem.

"I work for myself."

Helena's laugh was a short and hard bark, hardly sincere, and quickly interrupted with a scream as she moved her foot to the man's hand where she pressed her heel. It wasn't much after the violence she'd witnessed moments before, but still Pamela found herself oddly unperturbed by the scene.

"Try again."

"Wait wait wait! You can't kill me!"

"Oh? I didn't have much trouble with your friends back there."

"No , I - " He licked his lips and looked to Pamela again, she gave him no reaction. "My name is Gianni Inzerillo - " His sentence gave way to screams as bones crunched in is hand under Helena's heel.

"Bullshit - I know every Inzerillo in this city by face and name. Try again."

His next words were garbled between blubbering sobs and panicked gasps. "I'm his bastard son - doesn't want anyone to know - please, I'm telling the truth!"

Apparently the words held enough merit for Helena, and she lifted the pressure to allow Gianni to cradle his mangled hand as he shrunk into a ball on the wine and blood-stained floor.

"Helena?" Pamela asked after a moment of near silence - save for the quiet moaning of Gianni. "What are we doing with him?"

Helena turned, an unsettling smile on her face. "I'm going to use him to deal with Inzerillo. Thanks Pam, I'll talk to you in a week."

Eager to leave, Pamela wasted no time with questions. "Make sure to have the tunnel cleaned and sealed, unless you want that mold to spread further." Was her only farewell, and with the briefest glance back at the unfortunate young Inzerillo's pleading eyes, she left the way she came.

07/10/2020 - Gotham City - Bertinelli Estate

Helena first mentioned the idea of her uncle taking a trip back to Italy her first week back in Gotham. It had taken nearly a month for him to actually heed her advice, and a week from there to actually call an official meeting of the five families. It was an arduous task, but if there was anything Helena had learned in her years away, it was patience and attention to detail.

She stood at the head of the mahogany conference table, the same high-back leather chair her father commanded from behind her. From her briefcase she retrieved five display tablets and placed them on the table as someone knocked softly on the door.

"Come in."

"Ms. Bertinelli," It was Micheal, her uncle's- and temporarily her- personal assistant. " everyone has arrived, but they seem displeased."

She waved him away as she pressed the power button on the display-pad in front of her. "They can sweat it out another three minutes. Offer some water then let them in." She took her own seat at the head of the conference table and leaned back. When she was alone again, she placed the remaining displays at each of the four empty seats at the table.

Exactly 180 seconds later, Inzerillo busts through door, pushing past frail Cassamento in the process. Having already bullied his way to the front, he made a point to walk the longer path around the table only to sit at the seat furthest from Helena's own at the head. If he was surprised to see Helena instead of her uncle, he made no mention of it. Without a word, Helena pressed a button and sent the image of a police officer on a morgue table to the tablet in front of him. For a moment, his blotched-red face paled.

Santo Cassamento, the eldest don, shuffled his way into the seat left of Helena and closest to the door.
"Helena? What a lovely surprise, I haven't seen you since you reached my knees." His introduction was surprising enough that it took a moment for Helena to return his out-stretchered hand. She did so with a forced smile, only to send his tablet an unfortunate file regarding one of his shipping yard's recent purchases and distributions.

Third was Galante. A fat middle-aged man that had trouble committing to anything, he barely grumbled a greeting before taking a place beside Cassamento. To his display, Helena sent files received from the mans accountant. Just numbers to the untrained eye, but in the right hands could be used as damning evidence for dozens of money-laundering businesses all owned under the Galante name.

Finally, young Beretti came stumbling in. A boy of barely 18, he looked like he wanted nothing more than to melt into the carpet. With a calculated slide of Helena's finger, the display at his seat showed a rather stunned Charlotte Rivers sitting with a newspaper scrawled with the Bertinelli name.

For a glimmer of a moment, there was a complete silence. The Dons studied their own dirty laundry and came to terms with the fact that they were at the mercy of one of their own. At least, it was silent until Inzerillo opened his mouth to give voice to the growing discontentment in the room.

"What is this? Where is Luca? We have already tolerated this delusion long enough. You-" He was standing, jutting a finger at Helena as he approached her at an alarming rate. "-are not our compare, and are in no place to make demands."

"More importantly" Galante joined, "What you are threatening is completely forbidden. We do not threaten our own, whatever the cost. The mere act of doing this is obscene."

Beretti finally piped up. "I'd like to know how these documents were obtained. Have you put spies in our homes?" This sparked a fire that caused the conversation to devolve into a hurling of both resentment and insults in every direction. Here lay the mighty Cosa Nostra, the oldest crime families in Gotham, bickering like children. Helena's ancestors would have laughed before having them all killed. Their plans had been sloppy enough for her to discover after a mere month being in Gotham; hiring police to spy on other family members, sloppy arms deals, flaunting ill-gotten wealth, and finally the kidnapping of the mayor's daughter. The great five families, fighting over scraps as clumsily as starving dogs while Cobblepot watched them from the wings.

"This is something we should have Mandragora handle." It wasn't a loud proclamation, but it quieted the others and drew Helena's attention.

"No. This involves only the families." She interrupted with as much finality as she could muster. Mandragora was a problem for another day. For now, she only sought the attention of the four men in front of her, which she unequivocally held. Even Inzerillo backed away a few inches when Helena rose from her seat.

"Some near two-decades ago one of you ordered a kill on my family." The captivated silence quickly turned uncomfortable. "Yes, I know, such an awkward subject, but it can't be helped."

"Worse still. Three people at this table stood by and watched. There was no trial, there was no investigation, there were no questions asked. The tenets that each man here is sworn to were broken. Omerta. You broke it with my family once, and now I do the courtesy of warning you before I do the same." With a touch of her hand, each of the displays briefly flashed a letter, worded to the commissioner, before all going completely dark.

"From now on, the Upper East side is enforced Bertinelli territory. There will be no trespassing, there will be no selling, or fighting in our area. I don't care if you don't respect my authority, but if you don't listen to my instruction those files get released. You contact a buyer on our side of town. You're finished. One of your men gets too drunk and so much as trips in Bertinelli territory your family is finished." She took one more brief moment to appreciate the silence that had fallen over her guests before excusing herself from the conference room.

"I will give you gentlemen some time to consider."
C H A R A C T E R C O N C E P T P R O P O S A L

B I R D S O F P R E Y


H E L E N A R O S A B E R T I N E L L I | P A M E L A I S L E Y H E I R E S S | B O T A N I S T G O T H A M
C H A R A C T E R C O N C E P T:

"That's omertà. When blood cries for blood, you answer the call."
"You seem to have me confused with some warm-blooded damsel in distress."

Gotham City has always been at war with itself. Between the crime, the asylum, and the social divide between classes, not many make it out unscathed. Helena Bertinelli and Pamela Isley are two of the city's survivors.

The Bertinelli name was once as much feared as respected in Gotham. Helena's father ruled over his families, both business and blood, with an iron fist. There was no room for error or insurrection in his domain. Her mother while still kinder to her child, was no less ruthless: For her no slight went unmatched tenfold, even if it came from her own husband. Thus, when it was discovered she was seeking comfort from one of the other five families in retaliation for her husband's unfaithfulness the problems began. Fearing Don Bertinelli's reaction, Santo Cassamento approached the leader of the Mob, Stefano Mandragora who sent a kill order on the Bertinelli family. Expecting Don Mandragora to come for a visit himself, the entire family was waiting outside when the assassins arrived, leaving an eight year old Helena as the only survior.

She was sent to Italy, the home of the Bertinelli name, where she learned from her uncles and cousins the history and the way of the Cosa Nostra. As time went on, her interests grew with her, and eventually she began to train in combat, stealth, and espionage with her male cousins. Now, nearly two decades after the night that defined her life, Helena has returned to the city to avenge her family and return the Bertinelli name to its former glory.

Aside from their differences in wealth, Pamela Isley's family story isn't all that different from Helena's. Her home had been small, but her mother made up for it. The most kind and nurturing woman Pamela ever knew, she taught her daughter how to garden and care for plants until their tiny front yard bloomed a different colour with every season, and window boxes spilled over with different vegetation. The darker side to their life lay with her husband and Pamela's father. For all her kindness, Pamela's mother was not a strong woman. She her marriage had been hurried and ill-considered, as her husband's abuse began shortly after Pamela's birth. Anytime he lost his temper, there would be a gift of seeds and flowers the next morning as though to wipe the memory away. It was a terrifying existence, that only reached its true low on Pamela's seventeenth birthday; when her father killed her mother. He was arrested and charged guilty with murder but was far from enough to quell Pamela's yearning for justice.

In hopes to put her past behind her, she left Gotham to go to NYU to study biology and botany. She lived in the city for six years, received her masters and began a relationship with her colleague and former professor Marc Legrand. After years of developing spores that could effect the central nervous system, Pamela made a breakthrough which she was rewarded for by being poisoned and left for dead.

When she awoke, Pamela was changed. While she is constantly learning about what she has become, the betrayal of her former lover was enough to re-ignite her anger and her first course of action was the poisoning of her father in prison. From there she returned to Gotham, taking a job at Gotham university, where Helena found her and promised to help her find and kill Legrand in exchange for Pamela's help returning order to Gotham's mob families.

C H A R A C T E R M O T I V A T I O N S & G O A L S:

With the goal of the roleplay forcing characters to start fresh, I decided to take two well established characters with dated and inconsistent backgrounds and give them a fresh slate in the modern age. How will Poison Ivy's environmental messages be reacted to in the global-warming age? What if instead of being inspired by Batman, Huntress set out only to return the Bertinelli name to glory? While they may seem an odd pair at first, I believe there is an interesting dynamic between two strong female characters both of which were originally created to be tacked love interests.

Helena will be returning to Gotham for the first time since the murder of her family, to find the five families close to all out war while the Penguin infringes on their money-making schemes. Under the leadership of her uncle the Bertinelli's claimed area is poorly enforced and constantly overtaken by the other families. She seeks revenge for her family, and to rule over those that killed or stood by and watched. All while unaware of her own true heritage.

Ivy is recently returned from the dead after her partner and mentor attempted to kill her. Still in the early stages of her transformation, her powers are constantly developing as well as her connection to the green. Confused as to what is happening to her and filled with anger she returns to her former home in Gotham. There she has and joined the research group at Gotham University where Huntress heard about her talents and offered to aid Pamela's environmental activism and quest for revenge from a place of power; provided she help her get there.

Both these character are morally gray and will begin as such, at least for the start of their story. As they learn more and evolve I see Helena growing into a more traditional hero, while Ivy's connection to the green grows and empathy for human withers.

C H A R A C T E R N O T E S:



  • Stefano Mandragora: The mafia head of all mafias. He keeps the mob in line not just in Gotham, but for all of the North-Eastern United states. He is also the man responsible for killing Helena Bertinelli's family at the behest of the Cassamento family.
  • The Five Families: The five ruling families of Gotham's mob. While they still claim their territories, new upstart-gangs are constantly infringing on their space, and the respect for them has gone down greatly in recent years.

    • Bertinelli: Helena's family is ruled by her uncle Luca in America, and he has no intentions of giving up his place regardless of his niece's reappearance.
    • Beretti: A family left in shambles after the recent arrest of it's head, Angelo Beretti. He has been supplemented by his young son Antony Beretti the family is scrambling to retain its foothold maintaining the peace between the Cosa Nostra and law enforcement with both bribes and blackmail.
    • Cassamento: Headed by Santo Cassamento, Helena's true father, and the one who invoked her family's murder. Once the closest family to Bertinelli, they used to run arm deals together, though they too have lost a great deal of respect and work in the past decade.
    • Galante: The family most linked to drug movement in Gotham city. Headed by Claudio Galante.
    • Inzerillo: The least liked of the Cosa Nostra, and the only group to have actually grown in the past few years, sharing their space and deals with Cobblepot has proven beneficial to their pockets, but less so for their already poor reputation among the other families.
  • Oswald Cobblepot: The man taking over the organized crime in the city, and has been eating away at the historic five family's power for years. Helena plans to organize the families against him, while Poison Ivy seeks to cease his development projects in the green belt around Gotham.
  • Marc Legrand: Pamela's ex-professor and boyfriend, he once worked researching Botany at NYU before he tried to kill Pamela with a spore she developed, resulting in her turning into Poison Ivy, and him receiving a generous offer of payment if he were to recreate the effects on a larger scale- courtesy of Oswald Cobblepot.
  • Charlotte Rivers: The teenage daughter of Gotham's mayor Sebastian Hady.

S A M P L E P O S T:

Helena still remembered the purple dress she had worn as an eight-year-old outside her family's estate as they waited for Don Mandragora to arrive. She hadn't known who he was at the time, just an important important dinner guest from her father's work. Whatever that was. The dress had puffed sleeves that her mother had to keep reminding her not to play with as a shiny back car pulled up the drive. "But they won't stay down, and my stockings itch." She had complained while her mother clasped her hand to keep her from fidgeting as the door to the car opened, and two men stepped out.

When Helena first arrived in Sicily and come to understand the Cosa Nostra and her family's place in it, she had imagined breaking into the home of every mob family and destroying them each as her own family had been. The reality was much less dramatic, but good things come to those who wait. Or at least that is what she told herself as she ducked out of sight from a patrol; directly into a dumpster positioned outside the 12 foot fence surrounding the Beretti concrete plant. The lights lining the inside of the perimeter meant that cutting through wasn't an option without being seen. It wouldn't have been the best choice in any-case: The less attention there was to a Bertinelli ever being in another family's territory the better. Once the guard's steps had faded to a reasonable distance, Helena aimed her loaded crossbow toward the top of the barbed fence. With a quiet buzz a cable wrapped around it's target and pulled Helena up. She crouched down on her precarious position and scoped out the area.

They hadn't wasted any time shooting, but the only image Helena had of that brief moment was her father falling to the ground at the same moment her mother pushed her into a similar position. Amid the screams someone called for her to run. So she had.

Whether the lack of security was a result of Angelo Beretti's arrest or part of the cause, it was a glaring issue throughout. Non-front factories were harder to break into. Helena shot herself to the top of the flat, square building; directly over the heads of a patrol and was completely undetected. For the moment it was a relief, for the long term something would have to be done. Within moments she had the grate to the building's ventilation system off and was sliding herself in. It was a tight fit, but once she reached a non-vertical passage, she was able to move around enough to crawl, and even reach her utility belt.

The Bernitelli family didn't go down easy. The assassins spent an hour combing through the house, killing everyone in their sight; family member or servant. Helena's mother had forced her into a closet from which she watched as the hit-men intercepted her mother's exit and left her bleeding on the floor. A child, and unaware of her family's profession, Helena screamed. For a brief moment, the killed met her eyes, but turned away. Leaving her to sob as her mother's blood soaked into the carpet until her cousin would discover her the following morning.

There was one final guard standing between Helena and her prize. Under normal circumstances, that would have been a lethal position to take. But in keeping with her cover of stealth and discretion she instead pulled one of Pamela's vials from her belt. With a quick prayer and final inhale she dropped the vial from her position on the vents, held her breath, and waited until she heard the man's body hit the ground. For another few minutes she waited for the pheromones to dissipate before lowering herself to the ground. The guard was still alive, his breathing shallow but even. The key to the door his was tasked with watching was easily retrieved from his hip.

The room they were keeping mayor's daughter hostage in really wasn't bad, all things considered. There were no windows, and the floor and walls were plain cement. But there was a rug, couch, bed, table, even a TV which she was so absorbed in she didn't even notice her visitor until Helena turned it off.

"Who are- Well its about time someone came looking for me. Don't you people know who I am?"

Helena ignored the teenage girl and instead began searching for paper. There was a newspaper beside the couch from two days before, likely used in the original ransom. She picked it up and began writing on it's front page.

"My father will have this place burnt to the ground. The idiots in here will be rotting away in Arkham for years when he..." Her voice finally trailed off as she realized her "rescuer's" free hand was leveling a loaded crossbow at her face.
"Oh darling," She lamented, as though explaining a concept to a small child. Her writing finished, she staged the newspaper in the girl's lap, stood back and snapped a picture."I'm not here to save you."

Charlotte might have yelled after her, but by the time anyone came to check in, Helena was long gone.

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