[OOC] The War of the Three

[Lonewolf685]

...wait, so like, this entire thing is going to be ending in three posts from the rest of us?

That seems...a little premature. Almost sort of, forced really. What about the demons and their planning? Or possibly what the angels might have planned in a counter attack?

Or are you saying we have three posts to do something or the battle will end?

@Rune_Alchemist

The Battle will end in three rotations of posts, come what may. The Battle itself has gone on for quite awhile and things need to move along. There are plenty of more battles to come, but this one has drawn on. For a trial to shake out the bugs of the RP it has done well, but it has to end before it drags out.

So you have 3 posts to push your side as close to victory as possible or drag down another so they are sure to lose. Good Luck!

@Ryonara, @Skyswimsky, @LokiLeo789, @Legion02, @Shyla Nesthorn, @Flamelord, @Rune_Alchemist, @Lucius Cypher, @KoL, @Lonewolf685, @Pyromania99

[Lucius Cypher]

I'm sure we can pad out individual fights with collabs. Grafdakka will take on all comers! Fran is going to pleasure herself with Gwynn, don't you worry, @Rune_Alchemist. All we need is for Fran and Gwynn to meet and we shall see who will be top dom!

[Ryonara]

@KoL is it okay if Shizuka uses Diana's sword? I think she might need it.

[Skyswimsky]

Well, good thing I did nothing yet! 8Dc

[Rune_Alchemist]

@Lonewolf685
I mean, its a war. I think its supposed to drag on? Lemme get further clarification then.

What will happen to the demons aboard the Elicitor, then? They're still part of the battle. They can't just poof out of the Elicitor. And considering things, its still part of this 'battle'. Maybe I'm just being nitpicky over terms here, but it seems a bit forced to say that this 'battle' is going to end, and there will be a clear 'victor' in a rotation of three posts.

As in, forced. Rushed. Has it gone on for awhile? Possibly, but that's just the way its turned out. We have a few many characters and some individual things still need be be cleared up. I suppose collabs could circumvent that, but still...feels rushed.

Further, if I am to be completely honest here....it feels a bit like the machina have been set up to win this 'battle' from the beginning. Maybe its just been how I've been interpreting things, but at the moment it feels like all of the actions of both the demons and angels to get Bastion has been rather moot if this is going to end so soon.

@Lucius Cypher

Honestly, I'd prefer it if Gwynn and Fran didn't do anything like that. If only because the only thing that would accomplish is Gwynn cutting frans sword off, before promptly, violently ripping her to shreds in the most violent way possible in an angry frenzy.

[Lonewolf685]

Honestly, I'd prefer it if Gwynn and Fran didn't do anything like that. If only because the only thing that would accomplish is Gwynn cutting frans sword off, before promptly, violently ripping her to shreds in the most violent way possible in an angry frenzy.

@Rune_Alchemist

If Fran does make it down their, Regia will likely defend the prisoners herself or release them to let them fight for their lives...assuming Gywnn is honorable enough to honor her earlier surrender.

[KoL]

@KoL is it okay if Shizuka uses Diana's sword? I think she might need it.

@Ryonara

Go ahead, but the sword is hardly more than a normal blade w/o Diana's mantle.

[Rune_Alchemist]

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If Fran does make it down their, Regia will likely defend the prisoners herself or release them to let them fight for their lives...assuming Gywnn is honorable enough to honor her earlier surrender.

@Lonewolf685

If she doesn't get put into Bondage gear, she will be.

[Lucius Cypher]

@Rune_Alchemist

Ah but that's the glory of it: That might not happen! Fran might win after all, who knows, we haven't fought each other yet.

As for the odds, well, I can't say that's entirely true Rune. True the Machinas at least had a clear objective, but they could only have succeeded due to pulling their trump card fast. The Angels made short work of the Machina's defenses and at the rate it was going, it was only a matter of time before they would have somehow managed to have destroyed the Elicitor without even knowing it's lay out. Even the demons have made some pretty solid headway despite the Elicitor supposedly hunkering down for a full on defense.

I think the reason the battle is going to end soon because right now we're at that climactic moment were victory can be achieved in the matter of moments. The Angels might still have some way to clear through the dirt (Or for Diana and Gwynn to escape), the demons could capture and teleport away with Bastion, or the Machinas could eliminate all their enemies and save themselves. The fact that one of the three must happen is why the battle is going to end soon: Whoever is closest to achieve one of the three will be the winner of this battle.

And yeah, wars will drag on, but battles can end quickly. This battle could have ended the moment Victoire dropped her big ball of blood onto the Elicitor, or if the Angels zerged the defenses and ripped through the hull. The Machinas could have started going underground immediately instead of trying to duke it out against the angels and demons. Now did we do the best thing to win the battles? Nah, but that's war for ya. Besides, this battle hardly decides who the winner of the war is. It's just another battle of the many within the Nexus, and what happens here may not affect the outcome of the war at all. Maybe, I dunno, the GM's are a cruel and fickle folk.

They took my kidney. Please send help.

[Ryonara]

@KoL

Would it be effective against demons in Shizuka's hands at least? She is a Holy Spirit. If not that's fine with me too, she just needs something better than a knife and her pistol to use against the demons. Also, I'll be fine if your demons do end up fighting Hibiki and Shizuka soon. Though I should warn you that when I do post they'll be in their full combat gear and much tougher than they would be without it.

[TheWendil]

Further, if I am to be completely honest here....it feels a bit like the machina have been set up to win this 'battle' from the beginning. Maybe its just been how I've been interpreting things, but at the moment it feels like all of the actions of both the demons and angels to get Bastion has been rather moot if this is going to end so soon.

@Rune_Alchemist

Also keep in mind here the Angels have been completely owning everyone else. I don't think that's a clear victory for the Machina.

[Rune_Alchemist]

@Lucius Cypher

I'm going to be perfectly honest, if that's your interpretation of it that's cool.

But honestly, I think the angels have pretty much have the shaft this entire time. Firstly, they're inherently weak against the Machina. I don't think any of the angels ever really just 'blitzed their defenses'. If anything, the only ones doing major damage to the Machina were the demons from what I saw, while the angels were mostly on the defensive most of the time looking for a weak point to try and get into the Elicitor. Because, for one, their holy arts are weak to man and their machines.

They made short work of the demons and their corruption, of course, as it was seen. Victoire was a major disadvantage there, and to be honest, the only demon that I ever saw that was even remotely hindered by the angels or machina. Silana and Suparna made short work of their foe and got in completely unhindered. They just apparently haven't had time to get further in, despite being inside of it.

As for the climactic moment? Hell goddamn no, there's so many ways this can play out at the moment from a strategic standpoint. The Angels still have the Valkyries for example. I'm not entirely sure of their power here, but what if they just used a goddamn giant solarbeam to unearth the elicitor or something? If that's the case, then we should have been informed from the beginning that's what the valkyries are capable of, so we could have better worked that into the planning.

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Also keep in mind here the Angels have been completely owning everyone else. I don't think that's a clear victory for the Machina.

@TheWindel

Again...I'm just going to offer a differing opinion there. The only thing the angels have actually done, is fight of Victoire, duel Grafdakka and barely get an agent inside, only to have her captured almost immediately whilst the demons have almost unhindered access to the Elicitor at the moment while the Machina in my opinion seem to be honestly the least injured out of everyone.

They've honestly made the least headway in regards to this fight. If anything, the demons have had the most progress.

...I dunno, I'm going to stop rambling here but I am admittedly, not very happy with this decision. This doesn't seem like it can end smoothly or logically in three posts from everyone else. There's too much that can happen.

EDIT: You have to remember a battle is always about more than just 'who kills the most amount of men', but is rather 'how quickly and efficiently you complete your objectives for that battle' At the moment, the Machina are simply smooth sailing and haven't had any major hindrances at all, despite apparently being infested with demons now, while the demons are making good progress and the only ones who have made zero headway are the angels.

Which is fine, if that's the way it logically plays out, but it seems like the Machina in my opinion have just had it...really, really, easy for it to end so completely early.

[TheWendil]

Hmm. What does everyone else think about this? Because by all means, nothing is set in stone and I would like to hear the majority opinion before proceeding.

[Pyromania99]

Three rounds of posts feels a bit too short to me. I mean, it depends on how much gets done, but this is a big fortress with much potential. I mean, it will have to end at a certain point, but there are many Demons on the inside of the fortress now. I dunno. XD

[KoL]

@KoL

Would it be effective against demons in Shizuka's hands at least? She is a Holy Spirit. If not that's fine with me too, she just needs something better than a knife and her pistol to use against the demons. Also, I'll be fine if your demons do end up fighting Hibiki and Shizuka soon. Though I should warn you that when I do post they'll be in their full combat gear and much tougher than they would be without it.

@Ryonara

Sorry for the late reply, I was at college. Anyway, it would be effective, yes. The sword doesn't work only for Diana, after all, it's a borrowed weapon.

The only ones that can't touch it are the demons, unless they want their hands burned, that is.

[Ryonara]

@KoL

Cool. I also peeked at Diana's CS and noticed that she could grant the power of the mantle to anyone she see's. It's a bit meta gamey so I won't act on it, but maybe Diana could use the mantle to help Shizuka fight against the demons?

[KoL]

@KoL

Cool. I also peeked at Diana's CS and noticed that she could grant the power of the mantle to anyone she see's. It's a bit meta gamey so I won't act on it, but maybe Diana could use the mantle to help Shizuka fight against the demons?

@Ryonara

She could try to do that of she saw the demons, but there's a tiny little thing that's in the way.

I might like having my characters gagged way more than its healthy, but going is that activating powers while your mouth is stuffed with rubber is kinda hard, y'know?

[Lonewolf685]

@Ryonara@KoL

If it comes to a confrontation, I think the Machina will be a bit lenient with their recent prisoners instead of all of them being captured or killed by the four demons.

[TheWendil]

I might like having my characters gagged way more than its healthy, but going is that activating powers while your mouth is stuffed with rubber is kinda hard, y'know?

@KoL

Endangering the mission with your perversions again, eh?

[LokiLeo789]

Hmm. What does everyone else think about this? Because by all means, nothing is set in stone and I would like to hear the majority opinion before proceeding.

@TheWindel

I agree with @Rune_Alchemist on this one. The battle is far from over, and the Angels were kind of at a disadvantage from the start. Is Raziel the only person with a real injury besides Warboss?