[OOC] FRAMEs (Mech combat, political intrigue & corporate struggles)

[DarkStar]

@FosterI think it's a more rigid structure than the last one :p. I really wanted to resurrect Mr.B

[Slamurai]

@Windicator@Darkspleen@WilsonTurner@Commodore Robot@Sophrus@EmptyArmor@OppositionJ@Cerberov@Silverwind Blade@DarkStar@Foster

It's break time! Sorry for cutting the combat short, if you still planned to partake. I thought I'd move us along, since we might be taking on new players and out of concern the op might drag on longer than necessary.
We're now in the fabulous city of Hamarr, equal parts steel and neon. I'll add some new gear y'all can go wild on very soon. All the purchasing is done here in the OOC, for convenience. We can assume in-between IC posts, your characters are exploring like kids in candy stores. I've got another FRAME scenario ready to go after our little intermission and some R&R!

Feel free to make up some NPC interaction; give some names and personality to the Samigina's crew. You'll be working with the mechanics quite a bit, after all. We can assume they're tinkering with your machines while you're out, too (if you choose to go out).

@Aristo

I invite you all to take a look at the equipment list! You have a new FRAME available, a couple new categories of weapons and new armaments in existing categories. There is also a new trio of additional systems to install.

For the completion of the last mission, you each will receive 400,000c to do what you will with. You also have the option of selling anything you possess. Please make a note of transactions here in the OOC and in your sheets.

[DarkStar]

Is the alteration I made any better?

[Slamurai]

Is the alteration I made any better?

@DarkStar

The power/weight system is off - You take the "power" the FRAME generates (140 for the Handou) and subtract the FRAME's own "weight" to represent the machine's many internal systems (85), then you subtract the equipment and external stuff. So 140 - 85 = 55 free weight. You can fit 55 "weight" worth of equipment on the Handou. The rest goes into your 'storage.'

Also, I'd still like to know - what sort of testing was she involved in? Cybernetics isn't as advanced as to allow for cyberbrains or 'net diving' like Ghost in the Shell; although implants and prosthetics here and there exist. How did she find the Panthers? etc.

[Slamurai]

<Snipped quote by Aristo>

Likely a newcomer, due to how recent the Kamdeshi revolution has been.
-It is being implied that Marlene has seen combat in the last three years of that war; not as experienced as Leclerc, though.

As for weapons, I'll wait. Was hoping for a small autocannon and a large autoloading tank-gun (literally ripped the specs off an AMX-13's turret). The rocket-pack was likewise, the tubes from a BM-21-1 ripped right off the truck and bolted onto the FRAME.

@Foster

The equipment list has been updated, whenever you're ready! I'll review your FRAME once you've adjusted it. I assume we'll be meeting you in Hamarr.

[DarkStar]

@Aristo

AH I see...God I feel stupid now. Should be alright now. :/ Thanks.

That was what I was thinking about, Skin replacement to allow resistance to penetration, artificial eyes and ears, with the interfaces implanted to allow her to use them. I was thinking about how she would have met up with the panthers and I thought it could have been after she escaped the OSU to the Sodrodan League. Having finally seen through the cloud of rubbish propaganda. Looking for work and money she makes her way through the underworld before finding a contact who can put her name out their to mercenary groups. Working for rather piss all money before proving skill with a FRAME, that she already had. Just not the funds to acquire one. Eventually I think she could have found out about the panthers through stories and contacts their leader to ask if he needs any grunts.

[Slamurai]

@Aristo

AH I see...God I feel stupid now. Should be alright now. :/ Thanks.

That was what I was thinking about, Skin replacement to allow resistance to penetration, artificial eyes and ears, with the interfaces implanted to allow her to use them. I was thinking about how she would have met up with the panthers and I thought it could have been after she escaped the OSU to the Sodrodan League. Having finally seen through the cloud of rubbish propaganda. Looking for work and money she makes her way through the underworld before finding a contact who can put her name out their to mercenary groups. Working for rather piss all money before proving skill with a FRAME, that she already had. Just not the funds to acquire one. Eventually I think she could have found out about the panthers through stories and contacts their leader to ask if he needs any grunts.

@DarkStar

The prosthetic eyes and ears can be done; the skin is a bit out of our reach. The FRAME looks good as is; she's ready for the characters tab once some additional info about what you mentioned above is added.

[Slamurai]

I'll include my own RP transactions in the OOC as a guideline for y'all.

Cecilia Lang Transaction Update:

Funds Before Transactions: 345,160c

Operation Commission: +400,000

Sold Handou: +221,590c

Bought Kirin: -389,333c
Bought C3 Imaging Suite: -40,000c
Bought GPR-21 Autocannon: -15,000c
Bought MGR-2A Anti-tank Missile: -30,000c

Funds After Transactions: 492,417c

[WilsonTurner]

@Aristo
I included my transactions at the bottom of my mech CS.

I would've taken Cecilia to be more of a front-liner. Odd that she'd get a slightly less heavy mech and still outfit it to be command & control.

Anyhow, I outfitted mine with C3IS too.

Is there some way to salvage? Like if I say that my character pulls off weaponry, unused missiles, etc., from mechs, would you transfer extra credits for salvageable but unusable pieces, and allow me to put the usable stuff in my inventory unless I decide to 'sell' them?

EDIT!!:
Wouldn't it make more sense if there was a somewhat significant speed boost for every weight point unused? If a guy carrying JUST an autocannon is just as fast as a guy carrying a bazooka, AT missile, and heavier autocannon, then there's no point in having a lightly armed recon role. You'll be just as effective/ineffective as anyone else, besides the FRAME itself.

[Slamurai]

@Aristo
I included my transactions at the bottom of my mech CS.

I would've taken Cecilia to be more of a front-liner. Odd that she'd get a slightly less heavy mech and still outfit it to be command & control.

Anyhow, I outfitted mine with C3IS too.

Is there some way to salvage? Like if I say that my character pulls off weaponry, unused missiles, etc., from mechs, would you transfer extra credits for salvageable but unusable pieces, and allow me to put the usable stuff in my inventory unless I decide to 'sell' them?

EDIT!!:
Wouldn't it make more sense if there was a somewhat significant speed boost for every weight point unused? If a guy carrying JUST an autocannon is just as fast as a guy carrying a bazooka, AT missile, and heavier autocannon, then there's no point in having a lightly armed recon role. You'll be just as effective/ineffective as anyone else, besides the FRAME itself.

@WilsonTurner

True, as team lead, Cecilia will be at the center of the action more often than most. But the Kirin is a superior machine to the Kehei in almost every way. It's lighter, faster, has ECM and a target painter, better sensor and radar suites, operational range and power/weight ratio. Although Canton markets it as a reconnaissance FRAME, its really good all-around.

About salvage - we can't do it ourselves, but the crews on-board the Samigina can work on the FRAMEs and equipment we might take in. We hauled the three operational Dreqs and a handful of still-serviceable FRAMEs from the last mission. (The crews are still working on them!) You can expect to have operational Dreqs for the taking after the next op, probably.

& Although that makes sense, I don't want to bog down the RP with specifics. The speeds in the stats is assumed to be clocked when the FRAME's been loaded with a fairly even equipment spread. Being that we're not enforcing hard values and the speeds traveled in the IC are all narrative, there's no way to establish a true a speed/weight tradeoff. Just go with common sense and all that.

Also, I'd like to ask everyone who's participated so far; what do you think about the pacing? Too fast? Too slow?
I know we sort of zipped the combat a little and not everyone was able to get something in (although we assume you were right there, pumping out lead with us!). I've been scooting us along the transitions in my posts. The transitions in-between periods of action and rest seem to be an awkward place where lots of RPs get bogged down and people loose interest, so nudging us from the combat to 'playtime' and vice versa is my way of mitigating that phase.

[EmptyArmor]

Sorry about the wait, I've been having a really crazy weekend! I had to have my thanksgiving party early, but I'll definitely have a post up by tomorrow, if not tonight. Have a good one everybody!

[Foster]

Another option is to let/force some pilots to sit-out on some missions.

[Slamurai]

Another option is to let/force some pilots to sit-out on some missions.

@Foster

I'd never force players to sit out, but if someone has to take time off IRL, it can easily be handwaved as their character needing some time off to take care of personal business.

How's your sheet coming along?

[Foster]

Likely to replace the BM-21 Grad tubes with the mortar-system, and jiggle around with the autocannons and heavy machine-guns.

Oh, and maybe some aftermarket ECM/Chameleon systems.

The bio is otherwise good, right?

[Slamurai]

Likely to replace the BM-21 Grad tubes with the mortar-system, and jiggle around with the autocannons and heavy machine-guns.

Oh, and maybe some aftermarket ECM/Chameleon systems.

The bio is otherwise good, right?

@Foster

Yup! The PU/USK are still in conflict, but it's not the all-out war it was in recent memory. The character section is fine!

[Rhona W]

Urgh, I have a lot of catching up to do. Feels like I've missed a lot just by being in a different time zone and being asleep.
I did want to get another post in, but I guess I'll just move onto the next one instead.
Not sure what to do about my machine. My plan is to make it into a full-on recon/EW machine as more of those systems become available. Aristo, is it okay if I PM you with what I have in mind so we can both get on the same page?
I might go more down the scout-sniper route a bit more also, so that I don't end up crossing over too much with Harold.

[Windicator]

Edward ”Phantom” Johanson Transaction update:
Funds before Transaction: 119,000
Operation Commission: 400.000
Total funds: 519,000
Transaction log:
23.11.2015
Sold:

• Armaments:
  • 1 x MG27 Light Machinegun : + 250

Bought:

• Armaments:
  • 2 x GAM-51 Anti-Air Missile : -30,000
  • 1 x AFC-40/L Autocannon : -12,000
  • 1 x LBU-3 Heavy Machinegun : -300
  
  Systems:
  • 1 x C3 Imaging Suite : -40,000
  • 1 x EVF “Chameleon” Active Camouflage : -35,000

Funds after transaction: 371,950

I'm going more for the fast and unseen approach working double job as recon and as hit-and-run person.
Also Stacking on them AA missiles as I feel it's good for someone to have some in the team.

Added "Transaction log" as a new hider to CS so it's easier to look at transaction history.

[Slamurai]

Urgh, I have a lot of catching up to do. Feels like I've missed a lot just by being in a different time zone and being asleep.
I did want to get another post in, but I guess I'll just move onto the next one instead.
Not sure what to do about my machine. My plan is to make it into a full-on recon/EW machine as more of those systems become available. Aristo, is it okay if I PM you with what I have in mind so we can both get on the same page?
I might go more down the scout-sniper route a bit more also, so that I don't end up crossing over too much with Harold.

@Silverwind Blade

Feel free; we can work it out!

[Windicator]

I'll be less active till next week Monday as I have series of exams and some smaller tests to get over with this week and the next Monday.
I'm sorry for the inconvenience but I'll still look at posting during that period.
That doesn't mean I won't post but I have loads less time so it will show in quality and quantity in equal matter (unless I end up procrastinating like an idiot).

[WilsonTurner]

(unless I end up procrastinating like an idiot).

@Windicator

Heheheh, I'm an idiot :b