[OOC] FRAMEs (Mech combat, political intrigue & corporate struggles)

[Slamurai]

@WilsonTurner
I just noticed you've got both the GPR21 and ATB140 equipped. The former requires two hands to use, as stated in the entry ("carried, two hands"). The rationale is the GRP21 packs a heavier punch than the AFC-40/L and needs to be braced with both arms for stability. The bazooka is propped up over the shoulder, so it only needs one hand at most.
So you'll have to decide between them or take the bazooka and the AFC-40/L.

[WilsonTurner]

@Aristo
Oh, can one not have a 'sling' of sorts or an equivalent?
For example, a 'clip' on his back and his leg, so that his bazooka can lock in on his back, and be pulled off and used when required, and his autcannon clipped to his leg, so that it too can be 'holstered' and used when available.

[Slamurai]

@Aristo
Oh, can one not have a 'sling' of sorts or an equivalent?
For example, a 'clip' on his back and his leg, so that his bazooka can lock in on his back, and be pulled off and used when required, and his autcannon clipped to his leg, so that it too can be 'holstered' and used when available.

@WilsonTurner

Oh, I guess that would make perfect sense; sure. I don't know why I didn't think of 'switching out' weapons before.

[WilsonTurner]

<Snipped quote by WilsonTurner>

Oh, I guess that would make perfect sense; sure. I don't know why I didn't think of 'switching out' weapons before.

@Aristo

:D

[Windicator]

I'll look at getting up an IC again tomorrow due to circumstances.
Thank you for your patience.

Edit:
Actually I'll probably get to working on First draft between written and practical test tomorrow.
If it gives any results you'll probably see a more polished version of it not long after. I'll keep ya'll updated if I can. No promises.

[Rhona W]

I added my new transactions onto the bottom of my Character Sheet. The only thing I bought was the C3IS, as there wasn't really anything else I wanted. None of the other systems really fit my character concept.

[Darkspleen]

I'm a tad disappointed there isn't a heavy cannon or something like that available to us yet.

[Slamurai]

I'm a tad disappointed there isn't a heavy cannon or something like that available to us yet.

@Darkspleen

Sorry; I'll keep this in mind for the next update!

[WilsonTurner]

@Darkspleen
Well I'm a tad disappointed that a buncha people are going with the C3. What's the use of a support guy who sees everything, and keeps everyone updated... if EVERYONE can see everything?
I mean, an LMG could wipe off the C3's exterior junk to negate its abilities, so using it in combat would be counterproductive, but still :/

[Rhona W]

@Darkspleen
Well I'm a tad disappointed that a buncha people are going with the C3. What's the use of a support guy who sees everything, and keeps everyone updated... if EVERYONE can see everything?
I mean, an LMG could wipe off the C3's exterior junk to negate its abilities, so using it in combat would be counterproductive, but still :/

@WilsonTurner

I came up with my character concept as recon, and wrote it right into her back-story... I feel the same way. My 'speciality' isn't very special right now, as I'm not really packing anything that anybody else doesn't have. I guess it'll be more down to my tactics and role-play than my systems at this stage... and that's only if people pay attention to what I'm telling them. Same with your character too though, to some extent.

That said, as I mentioned before, I could envisage our characters working together - I go find the things, feed back to you where they are, and you pass the info on to everyone else and update the 'god's eye view' of the battlefield, painting a full picture between the pair of us. And then give me new areas to go ferret about in to keep the info updated.

[Windicator]

For my role being more to do hit and run tactics I figured that most useful I got was with secondary recon so I can feed the data to the field commander as one would probably disengage with such tactics.
I could have taken the Armor upgrade but I was planning on being just that much more careful.
At a later date when we get more to choose from, maybe I can commit suicide by getting a melee weapon or get something along the lines of shotgun. I was tempted to go "artillery" with mortars but that just isn't fitting for what I see my character as. He'll probably get aggressive and up close once it ain't an open area with a dozen enemies but he'll keep changing. Maybe later I could even say he has shifted preference but that time ain't soon probably (Watch him getting wasted next mission)

[WilsonTurner]

@Windicator
The C3 is used to put all the data together, not to transmit it.

The C3 Imaging Unit receives everything that everyone in the unit is seeing, regardless of whether or not they have the C3, and then puts it together in the mech units that have the C3. You don't have to have the C3 to send the information.

It's like the thing that lets someone write a map. EVERYONE doesn't need to write a map- a couple people, maybe, but everyone else can, by default, yell out their shtuff and the one or three people that DO know how to write the map can do it.

[Rhona W]

@Windicator
The C3 is used to put all the data together, not to transmit it.

The C3 Imaging Unit receives everything that everyone in the unit is seeing, regardless of whether or not they have the C3, and then puts it together in the mech units that have the C3. You don't have to have the C3 to send the information.

It's like the thing that lets someone write a map. EVERYONE doesn't need to write a map- a couple people, maybe, but everyone else can, by default, yell out their shtuff and the one or three people that DO know how to write the map can do it.

@WilsonTurner

If that's the case, then there isn't much point in me having it either, as I'd be more geared towards stuff that finds things, and then yelling that out to everyone else.

[WilsonTurner]

<Snipped quote by WilsonTurner>

If that's the case, then there isn't much point in me having it either, as I'd be more geared towards stuff that finds things, and then yelling that out to everyone else.

@Silverwind Blade

My thoguhts exactly.

@Aristo, correct me if I'm wrong.

[Darkspleen]

@Darkspleen
Well I'm a tad disappointed that a buncha people are going with the C3. What's the use of a support guy who sees everything, and keeps everyone updated... if EVERYONE can see everything?
I mean, an LMG could wipe off the C3's exterior junk to negate its abilities, so using it in combat would be counterproductive, but still :/

@WilsonTurner

Eh. Yea. I suspect that'll go away as more specialized equipment comes out later on though. Why get a C3 when it prevents you from getting extra armor (for example, I know its a bad one). Also if you aren't in the thick of the action like most everyone else, even with the exact same equipment, your situational awareness will probably be better. So that's something to keep in mind.

Anywho... I just want something I can use as the FRAME version of a DMR.

[Foster]

@Windicator
The C3 is used to put all the data together, not to transmit it.

The C3 Imaging Unit receives everything that everyone in the unit is seeing, regardless of whether or not they have the C3, and then puts it together in the mech units that have the C3. You don't have to have the C3 to send the information.

It's like the thing that lets someone write a map. EVERYONE doesn't need to write a map- a couple people, maybe, but everyone else can, by default, yell out their shtuff and the one or three people that DO know how to write the map can do it.

@WilsonTurner

Secondary benefit: Being able to relay ALL data between ALL similarly equipped (C3 upgraded) FRAMES much faster

edit:

Well, they can submit and share non-audiable map-plans without having to describe one rock different from another and hope the one guy with a map doesn't screw it up, which IRL came super-handy with M1A2 Abrams-crews when they realized their enemy was listening-in and somehow got a hold of their encryption-keys.
(OPFOR in a mil-ex is usually a dirty rotten cheating bastard by default)

Personally I'd just mount a big scope-mount, or a ground surveillance radar (active, detects motion, can potentially ID a target by how it moves), or a seismic detector (passive, same, requires everyone to stop moving).

[WilsonTurner]

<Snipped quote by WilsonTurner>

Secondary benefit: Being able to relay ALL data between ALL similarly equipped (C3 upgraded) FRAMES much faster

edit:

Well, they can submit and share non-audiable map-plans without having to describe one rock different from another and hope the one guy with a map doesn't screw it up, which IRL came super-handy with M1A2 Abrams-crews when they realized their enemy was listening-in and somehow got a hold of their encryption-keys.
(OPFOR in a mil-ex is usually a dirty rotten cheating bastard by default)

Personally I'd just mount a big scope-mount, or a ground surveillance radar (active, detects motion, can potentially ID a target by how it moves), or a seismic detector (passive, same, requires everyone to stop moving).

@Foster

Except in-combat mechs wouldn't be able to load reactive armor, and every shot, regardless if it penetrated, is going to start screwing up the C3. I don't think it'll take kindly to its electronics being shot off, nor the constant jamming about as its host mech gets hit.

That, and um...
I've been mentioning drones, remember?
Drones would be more effective than seismic detectors, radar, or scopes, it'll just fly around on its own and collect all needed information.

[DarkStar]

My god forster, yourrr being uppurty as usual.

[DarkStar]

Right. I just need the OK to post :D

If you want you could use this to skip.

[Foster]

2nd try:

Marlene Abdelkadar

Name: Marlene Abdelkadar
Age: 19
Gender: Female

Disposition: Sly, intolerably persistent, very emotionally invested and motivated.

Background: Hailing from war-torn USK/PU borderlands, unlike Leclerc, her unit was issued with second-hand FRAMES after the PU was already well-equipped to deal with the threat. Constant supply-problems and frequent breakdowns from skating across sand-dunes meant her squad operated under-strength in guerilla-warfare, often the pilots functioned as light infantry while the few remaining FRAMES provided much-needed fire-support to their guerrilla campaign.

On more than one occasion, civilian-FRAMES were pressed into service either just to keep a few more frames running, or retained simply because their smaller size was better suited to the sort of operations they conducted.

When the war ended, their independence secured, there was a massive draw-down and disarmament of their forces as USK focused its resources on rebuilding and caring for their people, an act that quickly highlighted the difference between the PU and USK. Marlene's unit was one of the first to be scrapped, handing in many of their converted FRAMES for economic development, while nearly all their best FRAMES ended up being conglomerated into a single centralized unit.

Angered by her new vestigial purpose in the military, sitting behind a desk, she quit and purchased a surplus FRAME and hit the mercenary-market.

Appearance

Inventory:
-AKSN-75U "Tanker's Krinkov" with infra-red scope and IR laser-sight/illuminator plus a 75 round drum because if she gets into a firefight out of her FRAME, it won't last long enough for her to get a chance to reload.

Funds: 312,210c

Other

MP21-AC YASSIR

Name: MP21-AC Handou "Yassir"
Manufacturer: Kelhei Manufacturing
Height: 4.3 meters
Weight: 6627 kg
Armor: 45 mm durasteel alloy
Speed (Walk): 42 kph
Speed (Skate): 72 kph
Sensor range: 2 km
Communication range: 10 km
Operating range: 500 km
Power: 140
Weight: 85
Price: 221,590c

Armaments:
4x LBU-3 HMG 1200c 12w
GPR-21 15kc 10w
BAD Light Guided Mortar - 20kc 20w

Extras:
EVF “Chameleon” Active Camouflage
35kc 5w

140 frame limit - 85 frame - 47 Armament/Extra = 8w reserve (82% of max capacity)
600k Starting balance - 221.59k Frame - 66.2k Armament/Extra = 312,210c

Odd Note: despite using weapons that did not exist in the original application, ending-balance was nearly identical.

My god forster, yourrr being uppurty as usual.

@DarkStar

I'm being pestered to post in a few 1x1s and a tac-team RP at the moment