@Terminal That was... aggressive. You make a fair point. I did some research, and it says there are truly no Green Stars. I also want to note I did the sun listing so everyone could choose their preference of color. With the research I've made, it seems it is similar in colors that we can choose. I will make requirements. I suppose I had high expectations that people knew they needed a star. Although, colonies don't really need a star. It'll be cold, it is recommended one is within range enough not everything freezes over, but I think a station could be enough as long as they have power.

@ClocktowerEchos That's me confusing myself, I've got a migraine from this horrible sickness I have. Just smack me please x.x

All players can discuss if there are problems with a Major Nation and points will be taken.

I've updated the rules on fleets.

@ArawakJudging from your tech, I think you're trying to be a Major. I hate to break it to you, but its stated that only the GMs are the Major powers.

Their weapon tech is substandard. They just have good defense systems.

Does this have to do with the world size system that is horribly rigid? Wouldn't a large Terra be much more fertile than a large desert for instance?

Whoops, my bad for miss reading stuff. Amazingly, being up at 1 in the morning isn't helping me at all it seems >.>

@Arawak Some Galaxies can differ in gravity and range of anomalies. Humans are restricted unless you speak to me first as I am the only human race in the galaxy. Tech Types should be chosen from the list, only aesthetics/fluff are different. The base must still be the base. I can not accept your NS at this time.

Edit: Others can argue my point. If this point defense system works in wave pulses, and it is accepting of the others, then I (And hopefully Keyguy wakes up and Wilson comes in) it'll be discussed, But if it disables missiles instead of taking their hits, then that must be a bonus technology, as the base types don't do that. And before we get too far, there isn't any absorbent armor. There is Grounded armor that absorbs electrical energy, but lasers create heat, like a flame on metal, Grounded armor isn't perfect against lasers.

@Arawak Some Galaxies can differ in gravity and range of anomalies. Humans are restricted unless you speak to me first as I am the only human race in the galaxy. Tech Types should be chosen from the list, only aesthetics/fluff are different. The base must still be the base. I can not accept your NS at this time.

It should be up shortly in any case, but I had planned for my faction to have a subpopulation of Humans within it, and for it to have 'sprung' in a sense from the Celestial Empire itself. The short version is 'legal shenanigans involving one of the wealthiest members of the Emperor's Court leads to the inception of a new Interstellar Nation originally made up of bean counters and a lot of external and independent parties following the money trail.' I am unsure on the precise structure of your government from what little is stated in your nation sheet, but if there is no actual court (even if in name only) I could easily tweak everything to simply make them a wealthy citizen of various means (they've been dead for a while either way).

I don't intend to make use of any of your assets or tech; it just occurred to me halfway through writing that the Empire presented a good choice of bureaucracy to source my own highly bureaucratic nation from. Full details pending, but that's the short of what I had in mind.

@Terminal Your Nation is a collective which we should really talk about, your humans are not part of a birthed Nation. And because it isn't birthed, I think you should get different starting things. Some disadvantages and some advantages compared to Minors, since it is a collective and not birthed within a growing system.

Also, at the first sign of conflict/hostility towards the Celestial Empire, because you have humans, you will be labeled as Rebels, and be targeted harder than ordinary enemies. This is opinionated of the Celestial Empire, not saying 'due to my rp rules you can't fight me.' I, as GM, don't care what you do, as long as it is realistic to the roleplay.

@Terminal Sorry, I never answered you. There is a council of advisers; political, military, science, etc., but they hold absolutely no control unless the Emperor gives them specific control of something. Otherwise control of science, military, etc is controlled by the high positions in those branches.

I'm in. Incoming NS.

My shield system works in pulses. It's a matter of timing; your missiles can hit them if you know when to land them. Generally just keep shooting and you'll hit them. The wave pulse systems more or less make swarm attacks (like spamming missiles all at once) hard to use against them. My guys essentially have advanced defensive, but inferior offensive systems.

Changed absorbent with grounded since they're basically the same thing.

But I will not recede on the human part since the vast majority of my faction aren't human. They dominant species are roaches.

It's just that humans are the top caste.

You can just treat them as a rebel force if you want since as far as the Celestial Empire would be concerned, they pretty much are. They're pretty much a insular protectorate and could be a "break away group" of reactionaries if you need them to be to fit in more.

Nevermind, I read the OP again and withdraw from the RP.

@Arawak The wave pulse needs to be bonus tech. I'm not rejecting it, it's just not the base type. And no ones shields are perfect, even as superior. GM's crunch the numbers, you just fight. Superior shields or not, they can be beaten down eventually. And I will not accept the human part. If it's my species, I can have say. Just like any other Nation, Terminal made sure that if anyone said no his Nation wouldn't have them

@Terminal Your Nation is a collective which we should really talk about, your humans are not part of a birthed Nation. And because it isn't birthed, I think you should get different starting things. Some disadvantages and some advantages compared to Minors, since it is a collective and not birthed within a growing system.

Also, at the first sign of conflict/hostility towards the Celestial Empire, because you have humans, you will be labeled as Rebels, and be targeted harder than ordinary enemies. This is opinionated of the Celestial Empire, not saying 'due to my rp rules you can't fight me.' I, as GM, don't care what you do, as long as it is realistic to the roleplay.

Makes sense. The most obvious disadvantage will proper be a lack of a highly developed and widespread industrial infrastructure. One advantage might be that the technology they have starts off slightly more advanced (since we have an official 'colony' being sponsored by individuals springing out of another interstellar nation). Due to the circumstances of their arrangement they will also be rolling in a surplus of wealth, mostly in ARG-Mandated Galactic Credits.

As for the issue with hostility, their core is a group of Trustees from one of your political factions. They wouldn't nominally be predisposed to try and cause trouble. They're going to be fairly firm about being independent from the Celestial Empire proper in terms of sovereign authority, but I see no reason why they wouldn't be on at least cordial terms with one another.

@Terminal Sorry, I never answered you. There is a council of advisers; political, military, science, etc., but they hold absolutely no control unless the Emperor gives them specific control of something. Otherwise control of science, military, etc is controlled by the high positions in those branches.

How does a distant relative of the Emperor (at least twice removed) assigned as chief adviser of Economics sound? This would have been some time ago, perhaps a decade - Emperor Herald would still have been alive.

The current draft states that the Adviser was one of the wealthiest individuals amongst the Celestial Empire at the time of his death, and his last will and testament would have included a curious set of instructions that would lead to the inception of the new nation some years later, originating in the form of an extremely well-funded colonization effort. The Trustees to the Will would have notified the appropriate authorities ahead of time as to the intentions of the will (specifically to found a colony independent of the Empire proper), and so if it was unlawful they probably would have hung up officials in court for a few years and then took off abruptly without warning. In that case, they would essentially already be rebels, though one imagines you wouldn't have an easy time finding them until they were already entrenched in their new locale. On the other hand, there's also the possibility their endeavor might have been entirely legal.

Completed nation sheet should be going up some time tomorrow.

EDIT: After reading your PM, here's my current Home System arrangement.

System Creator Choices
One White Star (3)
Two Blue Stars (6)
One Yellow Star (3) (Yes, it is a quaternary star system)
Two Medium Dead Planets (4)
One Medium Habitable World (3)
One Small Gas Giant (1)
One Small Habitable World (Freebie)

...Which shall be sufficient for my needs. In regards to the present of several different diverse species, the fact of the matter is that a large number of them are hired help being promised oodles of ARG Credit (which a number of minor faction species have been having trouble acquiring on a legitimate basis as established in your nation sheet). Their actual living conditions would require some finagling, but would largely be mediated by artificial shelters and environments as opposed to the existence of a systemic anomaly.

@Terminal I would be more alright with a small habitable world instead of a Medium. And also, with the situation you propose, and choosing not to fall under the rule of the Celestial Empire, yes, you would be Rebels. And being Rebels you would be sought out and destroyed, instead of being defended against, you would be hunted. And if you were able to construct a defensible fleet, by an internal decision, the Dreadnought may be used. When the roleplay starts, C.E. is going to be giving ARG Credits to Minors with small defensive capabilities to fund a military space station for added protection (And those they like). You'll have to quickly get allies if you don't want C.E. to come wipe you out when they find you.

Otherwise, you could be a collective of transporters, traders, and other civilians, giving you added bonuses, other disadvantages, still have a lot of credits, and not be seen as Rebels... until you become hostile.

Name: The State

Alias/Abbreviation: Velukans (Used only by foreigners)

Nation Specie{s}: Velukans

Specie{s} Description:

Velukans are rather tall, male averaging at 6ft6 and females at 6ft4, have 3 fingers to manipulate objects and a hardened exoskeleton. While said exoskeleton provides no defense against modern weaponry, it gives some resistance to blunt trauma, although enough force can cause internal damages as well. Mainly, they have increased resistance to the natural radiation of their home world. Historically they are a violent species that saw their history marked by violent conflicts, both ethnic and ideological. The formation of 'The State' only recently forced their nature to be softened. Instead they place their passion in sports and other entertainments.

National Symbol/Flag/Emblem:
To say that something is 'your' flag means that it could NOT be your flag as well. The State is as flagless as it is nameless.

Nation Population:
Veluka Prime: 5.2 Billion



Nation Focus: Intelligence



Nation Government:
Communistic Total Surveillance State

Nation Economy: Socialist
Private small scale service industry and entertainment industry, general rule being 'anything that employs over 100 people belongs to the state'. Prices of physical goods are controlled by the state and intellectual property becomes public after 5 years of creation. All basic goods are provided for and any non-physical good is free (A book on a computer is free, a paper copy is not), the currency is 'Merit', which is allocated to people by the state depending on their work and achievements. Prices are state controlled in function of availability and renewability of the material used in the creation of an item, with personal computer devices such as smartphones, TVs, PCs and game consoles being kept artificially low along with sports equipment. The aim is to keep the population contempt, forever.

Nation Military Description:
Officially the State has no army, only an excessively well equipped and trained police force with artillery, tanks, bombers, you name it. It is mainly focused on domestic concerns as it has been less than a century since the State was formed and some still don't agree with its existence. But even thinking about that is a thought crime that can send you to re-education. The State's domestic forces are supplemented by an enormous and almost all seeing intelligence service, the SIB (State Intelligence Bureau), three letters to make anyone shiver in fear when heard, because just talking about it is sure to put you on some watch list (If you weren't in one already). The SIB also works on censorship and disinformation and has been known not to hesitate to dupe the citizens of the State with elaborate hoaxes just to deceive foreign intelligence. False flag operations, entire military operations that don't exist, starting revolutions only to purge certain places from possibly hostile elements. People fear just hearing about a possible plot against the government and shun anyone openly speaking out against it as a possible SIB agent provocateur.

As for its foreign doctrine, the state is trying to do a military buildup to protect itself against possible minor nation aggression, but mainly fears the larger powers and thus places its resources on Weapons of Mass Destruction aimed at killing civilians. They never acknowledge that they do so however and their incredible intelligence machine makes it impossible to prove, but others know that if the State is attacked, it will do its best to cause as much damage as it can before going down. Deterrence is key.

Nation Culture Description:
The State is formed of many people of many cultures, but these days it is changing, as the State promotes historical revisionism, where everything from before it was bad and barbaric, as well as the creation of a single, globalized identity. From the outside, the average state citizen is a somewhat self centered individual that on average works only 20 hours a week but that thus has a vast amount of time for his hobbies, such as art or making stuff others will find entertaining. Indeed, it is impossible to turn a restaurant into a large chain or if you invent something, sell it to become incredibly rich as the communistic nature of the State prevents those things. Simply, Velukans do what they do because they find personal enjoyment in it, or revel in the popularity doing what they do give them.

The life of a Velukan is something to be envied by many other civilizations, as if you judge a society by how it treats its poor, Velukans live in a society where poverty is non existent, as is war and crime. But it comes at a cost. The state is seen, and justifiably so, as a psychotic totalitarian dictatorship suffering from paranoia at the highest level by its own citizens. You can either live in these comfortable boundaries or suddenly disappear, become a non person that never even existed.

Their views on outside is either an arrogant one, where they look with distain at how primitive anyone who is forced to work for a living is, or with superiority, where the outsiders are a bloody annoyance that should be crushed like the vermin that it is so the precious resources the universe has to offer can be used to better the lives of people who actually matter, Velukan lives! The first is what the state endorses, to see the State as the beacon of civilization. The second, while not actively being worked against, is an old legacy of the true Velukan nature: Warriors, that fight each other and anything else for glory, success, resources and to reduce lesser beings to nothing more than slavery. There are of course, those that look with envy at the freedom to be had outside, but those... they don't speak.

Nation Economy Description:
Private small scale service industry and entertainment industry, general rule being 'anything that employs over 100 people belongs to the state'. Prices of physical goods are controlled by the state and intellectual property becomes public after 5 years of creation. All basic goods are provided for and any non-physical good is free (A book on a computer is free, a paper copy is not), the currency is 'Merit', which is allocated to people by the state depending on their work and achievements. Prices are state controlled in function of availability and renewability of the material used in the creation of an item, with personal computer devices such as smartphones, TVs, PCs and game consoles being kept artificially low along with sports equipment. The aim is to keep the population contempt, forever.

National Figures:
Chairman of the State Projects Bureau Kritarch: While not the leader officially (The State has no leader), Kritarch controls what the manpower and resources of the State will build as a future for its people and any bureau that doesn't have the Project's Bureau on its side will have a hard time to do anything. He was chosen for this post as a compromise, because he genuinely doesn't care about what actually is and should be the state. He's a sociopath, unable to feel empathy for his fellow Velukans, which means he has no moral quandary doing the most terrible of things, and has been a keen supporter of the idea of deterrence, although he doesn't hide to his colleagues that he would honestly rather just kill everything else in the universe so they can't ever make a problem.

Chairman of the State Intelligence Bureau Valarak: Author of the so called 'Triangle of Paranoia' (The SIB is divided in 3, the first part is the humongous organization watching over citizens and foreigners alike while the 2 others watch over the first to weed out corruption and... on each other, to make sure the watchmen themselves don't become corrupt), he's the most senior Chairman around and despite having a say in anyone that climbs the rank and being able to watch anyone's life 24/7, still doesn't trust anyone but rare individuals. Makes it his personal duty that if everyone agrees on something to order everyone to double check. All of this however, is unnoficial. As head of intelligence, he has a cover identity as being a semi-popular internet figure known to show camping and hunting tips for the new and experienced alike.

Chairman of the State Security Bureau Flon: Was the head of Justice before being promoted. The official reason she was told for her promotion was that the current Chairmen found her flexibility refreshing and that what they wanted was someone who applied the spirit of the law, not its letters. The truth is that she was causing too many problems in her old position but was still competent and above all, popular enough that it would cause a fuss if she was removed from power by the SIB. Valarak decided to play a bold game and promote her, giving the people false hope for justice while in doing so, giving her so much responsibilities that she'd be too busy to micromanage everything and cause too many problems while placing someone playing more by the rule as head of justice in the meantime. She's a good natured person, kind of suspicious about foreigners as after all she effectively controls the army, but someone willing to ask questions first and shoot later.

Ambassador Solon: When dealing with outsiders, the Chairmen, Valarak especially, wanted someone who could be sympathetic to foreigners, empathetic to their demands, but that would always unquestioningly follow orders and place the State first. Finding complete zealots that would never think of letting slip an information to the strangers is easy enough, but one that was likable? Valarak think he found that person in Solon and indeed, he is likable, representing the ideal The State advocates: He is someone who's a diplomat because of his passion, not because of duty or desire for advancement, someone that wants to know the culture of others and understand them. If you do what you like, you won't work a single day in your life, right? More than an ambassador, Solon is a symbol of what his people is... or what the state wants people to think they are.

@Terminal I would be more alright with a small habitable world instead of a Medium. And also, with the situation you propose, and choosing not to fall under the rule of the Celestial Empire, yes, you would be Rebels. And being Rebels you would be sought out and destroyed, instead of being defended against, you would be hunted. And if you were able to construct a defensible fleet, by an internal decision, the Dreadnought may be used. When the roleplay starts, C.E. is going to be giving ARG Credits to Minors with small defensive capabilities to fund a military space station for added protection (And those they like). You'll have to quickly get allies if you don't want C.E. to come wipe you out when they find you.

Otherwise, you could be a collective of transporters, traders, and other civilians, giving you added bonuses, other disadvantages, still have a lot of credits, and not be seen as Rebels... until you become hostile.

I do have a small habitable world. It's the one each minor power receives for free. I bought the medium habitable world using my point allocation, as clearly indicated above.

As for the 'falling under the rule of the Celestial Empire' bit, I never said they didn't. I merely said they would insist on being identified as an independent sovereign power. I.E., a minor nation, akin to the other minor nations. They too, would be independent sovereign powers, not governed by the Celestial Empire but, according to you, still under the rule of the ARG. My nation would nominally also be subject to the laws of ARG as well, since there's no reason not to be yet, so they aren't really rebels. If you define rebellion as 'choosing not to be a part of the Celestial Empire,' then I believe you have bigger fish to fry with the other two Major Powers openly flaunting their independence and sovereign authority.

Also, I am a collective of transporters, traders, and other civilians. I also happen to be a technical offshoot of the Celestial Empire's bureaucracy. This doesn't bear much further elaboration until my nation sheet is posted, which should be shortly.

@Terminal Yes that is what I am talking about. if my humans run off and make an independent nation the C.E. gets upset. The two Majors are separate from C.E., they aren't humans. This isn't a game rule Terminal, I'm not saying you can't do any of this. I'm telling you that's how the Nation acts. When their own species splinters off and refuses to be ruled by their Nation, they don't like that. So gain an ally, or else when you're found, you'll be fought